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Longest you have had a tank set up

What is the longest you had a planted tank set up and not rescaped it?
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My planted tank. 55 gallon fluorite substrate over soil, 64 watts of light, excel twice a week. Weekly water changes. Angelfish pair, guppies, BN plecos and otos. Redone 11/13/2012
One non planted tanks. 75 gallon.
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For the most part my scapes stay in tact for at least 6 months, but I'm always adding or removing plants if I see something I want to try in the SNS. I spend a lot of time looking at other scapes and end up wanting to try something new based on an inspiration from another member so I'm always rescaping one of my tanks at least once a month.
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i have one that has been up for about 2 years 4 months, it isn't planted, and has never had a water change, and i have some of the best coloration i have ever seen on my tiger barbs. This tank has lost 1 fish in over 2 years, and i firmly believe he was killed by the tank mates, as he was a Very small tiger barb.The tank Does get top offs but that's it! It aint pretty, there is a 2 inch deep or so layer of sludge on the bottom but the numbers are always 0 across the board! PH is a steady 7.6. i wish all my tanks ran this smooth!
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You're nitrate is zero without any plants? Do you have some kind of denitrator setup? As far as I know there is no way to have zero across the board in a freshwater tank unless you do regular water changes or have plants.

Only topping off the water is going to result in increasing salinity unless you are using RO/DI water to top off the tank, at any rate starting regular water changes now would probably kill the fish anyway.


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You can get 0's across the board without plants by having a perfectly balanced biological filter. Perfectly balanced = bacteria eating and converting all tank waste

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You're nitrate is zero without any plants? Do you have some kind of denitrator setup? As far as I know there is no way to have zero across the board in a freshwater tank unless you do regular water changes or have plants.

Only topping off the water is going to result in increasing salinity unless you are using RO/DI water to top off the tank, at any rate starting regular water changes now would probably kill the fish anyway.

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im lucky if i can get it to last 4 months, i always have some idea in my head i want to try out and i dont have much space for more tanks

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I think the max is 3 months. I either get bored or come up with some idea.

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So when you all rescape do you keep the fish?

My planted tank. 55 gallon fluorite substrate over soil, 64 watts of light, excel twice a week. Weekly water changes. Angelfish pair, guppies, BN plecos and otos. Redone 11/13/2012
One non planted tanks. 75 gallon.
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So when you all rescape do you keep the fish?
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Depends on the scape. Sometimes I'll sell them off and get other ones that fit the scape better.
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You can get 0's across the board without plants by having a perfectly balanced biological filter. Perfectly balanced = bacteria eating and converting all tank waste

I recognize this is possible in reef systems but I'm not aware of a biological filter that can remove nitrates in a freshwater system. Anerobic bacteria that consume nitrates are not nearly as efficient as aerobic bacteria that consume ammonia and nitrite. The issue is usually a matter of transporting nitrate to anerobic bacteria without transporting dissolved oxygen as well.

I'm not saying it's impossible, just that I'm not aware of it being done in a freshwater system. I'd like to see some refrences that describe this balanced biological filter you suggest. Based on my understanding of water treatment in home aqariums it seems complicated and expensive to acheive a balanced system without water changes or plants to remove nitrates.

To keep on track, I've had a planted tank setup for about 6 months before rescaping, I've only had planted tanks for about a year now, one of my tanks I plan on leaving as is for a very long time. In the past I've had non planted tanks set up for as long as 2 years without re-scaping.


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I recognize this is possible in reef systems but I'm not aware of a biological filter that can remove nitrates in a freshwater system. Anerobic bacteria that consume nitrates are not nearly as efficient as aerobic bacteria that consume ammonia and nitrite. The issue is usually a matter of transporting nitrate to anerobic bacteria without transporting dissolved oxygen as well.

I'm not saying it's impossible, just that I'm not aware of it being done in a freshwater system. I'd like to see some refrences that describe this balanced biological filter you suggest. Based on my understanding of water treatment in home aqariums it seems complicated and expensive to acheive a balanced system without water changes or plants to remove nitrates.

To keep on track, I've had a planted tank setup for about 6 months before rescaping, I've only had planted tanks for about a year now, one of my tanks I plan on leaving as is for a very long time. In the past I've had non planted tanks set up for as long as 2 years without re-scaping.
Well if it helps any i do run carbon on all my tanks 24/7, and it is changed every 2 weeks, im sure this helps but im pretty sure the numbers are mostly because of the literally 2+ inches of Sludge setting on the bottom of the tank, its never had a water change,therefor never been had a gravel vac done. It wasn't intended to be a no water change tank, things were going well, so water changes kept getting put off and put off and now after 2+ years its like, well its been great this long without it why start now.
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Only topping off the water is going to result in increasing salinity unless you are using RO/DI water to top off the tank, at any rate starting regular water changes now would probably kill the fish anyway.
Salinity? this is a Freshwater tank, no salt?
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Salinity? this is a Freshwater tank, no salt?
Water evaporates, salts stay. Add water, has salt, evaporates, salt stays.

Repeat. It is true, though not much of any concern. Though we don't test for all of the things that we do water changes to remove. You aren't removing them.

It would be cheaper to do water changes than to keep using carbon.
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I recognize this is possible in reef systems but I'm not aware of a biological filter that can remove nitrates in a freshwater system. Anerobic bacteria that consume nitrates are not nearly as efficient as aerobic bacteria that consume ammonia and nitrite. The issue is usually a matter of transporting nitrate to anerobic bacteria without transporting dissolved oxygen as well.

I'm not saying it's impossible, just that I'm not aware of it being done in a freshwater system. I'd like to see some refrences that describe this balanced biological filter you suggest. Based on my understanding of water treatment in home aqariums it seems complicated and expensive to acheive a balanced system without water changes or plants to remove nitrates.

To keep on track, I've had a planted tank setup for about 6 months before rescaping, I've only had planted tanks for about a year now, one of my tanks I plan on leaving as is for a very long time. In the past I've had non planted tanks set up for as long as 2 years without re-scaping.
Go check out some of the amazing Natural Planted Tanks on Diana Walstad's El Natural forum over on APC- they will blow your mind!

This was my low tech RCS colony. I had it set up for 4 years, and only took it down b/c I moved the E. tenellus into my 90gal and needed the spot to set up my 29gal.





Really the only change I made during that 4 year period was I ended up pulling Cabomba b/c it kept getting too big and would get pulled into my filter intake. Oh yea, plus I removed java moss b/c it kept taking over too. I had to boil my driftwood to finally kill the stuff so it wouldn't keep growing back. That's when I put the Pellia and Flame moss in, instead. Only changes in 4 years... LOL

I was going to plant the Repens you see floating in the pic to have a background plant, but my cat got to it first while I had it in a bucket sitting beside the tank and ate it. (We can't keep any houseplants b/c of him, Grrrrrrrr)

I like setting up tanks that are low maintenance and last a longgggg time. Once I find something that works, I stick with it.





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