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help with bog/emersed plants

hello all,,,

been a while since i have been around. i am looking for some ideas/suggestions for some plants that do not need alot of light or
can just use natural light. i am planning on using a trough/window box
style planter that will sit across the top of my tank. I am looking for plants
that have a pretty stiff stem that would grow upwards instead of runners or growing to hanging. Also would like a hardy type plant that will/can thrive on nitrates from my tank instead adding anything. I do have root tabs that i can add.

i was looking at aquatic mint since it has a nice minty smell. i have used these in the past with when i had my outdoor pond.
i was also looking at chameleon plant houttuynia cordata. i know this plant is for ground cover but i think this combined with mint would be nice looking.

also would like to note that they will be in hard water as it will be on top of my african cichlid tank.

Whats your thoughts/suggestions/personal references?


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1) Add a light just for the plants. Spot light or strip light. You want them to work, you cannot deprive them of their requirements.

2) Do not allow Houttuynia cordata onto your property, you will never get rid of it. Water mint is almost as bad (I had to tear up my whole pond to get rid of it)

3) I suggest almost any house plant, but the one that has done the best for me is Golden Pothos, Epipremnum aureum.
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Adding a light is not a problem. I am just looking for something that does not require high light. I'm not worried about an invasive plant as they will never see outdoors. I will look into your suggestion thanks.

Bump: i like the golden pothos but would i be able to use a stick to make it grow upward instead of hanging down?

also i was thinking about using umbrella palm, whats your thoughts on that?
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Umbrella palm may grow 'thin' stems that lean over in low light as it does in my shaded greenhouse. Hemigraphis repanda and Hemigraphis alternata are good low light houseplants that do great in constantly wet soil. Both grow upright, and H. repanda is fairly compact growing.
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somewhere I have a pic on here of a 30 foot pothos wrapping the top of my living room out of my aquarium. nails to hold it and zip ties

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Mine did the same as Brandon's.
Out through a window to an enclosed porch, back in through the other window, and around the living room dipping into each tank as it went by.

Upright plants are harder to keep upright, though in an over the tank sump with lava rock I had a lot of different plants through the years. I had one of those gorgeous prayer plant relatives with the multi-colored leaves, and I still have a heart leaf philodendron in that planter.

Currently growing in my tanks:
Dracaena marginata 'Tricolor'- not doing well. Does not like that much water.
Neanthe Bella Palm- Doing surprisingly well. I would have thought they wanted more air in the soil.
Spathiphyllum (Peace Lily)- Will outgrow the setting!
A very colorful variety of Perilla, looks like Coleus. Has overgrown, and I keep snipping off bits and rooting them and moving them to new tanks. No soil, just sort of hanging over the edge.
Tradescantia, the plain green one. Is wandering in and out of about 15' worth of tanks. Sometimes submerged.
I keep dipping my carnivorous plants into the tanks, but they do not like it for more than a day or so.
There are probably more, but I cannot remember them all.
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somewhere I have a pic on here of a 30 foot pothos wrapping the top of my living room out of my aquarium. nails to hold it and zip ties
I would love to see this pic.
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Google paludariums, vivariums, and even terrariums and look at their images for some good ideas and plant names. There used to be a forum here for that but it appears to have been discontinued but there are lots of other boards on the web that serve those interests.
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Using Emersed Plants

Hello fluke...

Any of the following will work well with the bare roots under the tank water and the leaves above. Take care not to emerse the leaves of any of these plants. If you do, the leaves will die. Make sure all the potting mixture is rinsed off the roots and use a small air stone underneath the roots to provide a steady level of oxygen.

Here are the plant names: The best is Chinese evergreen (Aglaonema), Nephthytis, Pothos, Philodendron, Impatiens and Peace lily.

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Ahhh yes...
Syngonium (common name Nephthytis). I have that one growing out of the top of a 72 gallon bowfront on a tall stand. It has hit the floor and started creeping across the room.
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wow,, thanks for all the input i will look into them and see what i like and can get
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Basically, try any house plant.
Buy 4" pots of whatever you can find.
If it fails, you are only out a few bucks, and if it works your plant will grow pretty fast and you will soon have all too much of it!

Oh, yea, I also tried Spider Plant (Chlorophytum, several species or varieties). They really need the aeration around the roots, and do not like standing in aquarium water that is not flowing really well. They might do OK in a flood/drain system, but a fully flooded all the time system did not work for me with Spider Plant.
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Fittonia albivenis 'mini'
Tradescantia Zebrina Pendula ( Purple Wandering Jew )
Tradescantia Fluminensis 'variegata' ( Green/White/Yellow Wandering Jew)
Syngonium podophyllum ( Arrowhead Vine / Nephthytis )
Syngonium podophyllum 'pink' ( Arrowhead Vine / Nephthytis )
Hemigraphis colorata 'Exotica' ( Purple Waffle )
Dieffenbachia ( Dumb Cane )
Spathiphyllum ( Peace Lily )
Pilea Involcrata ( Friendship Plant)
Epipremnum Aureum (Pothos)
Pilea Cadierei (Aluminum Plant)

Some of these are newer than others, but they all seem to be happy so far. If you want to avoid "grow to hanging" then the best ones from that bunch are the Peace Lily, Dumb cane, Pileas, Purple Waffle and Fittonia.

Edit: PS: I did almost exactly what Diana said. I bought the smallest potted version of the plants to start. Mostly 3" pots. Figured I would know whether they grew or not and it only cost me ~$3 a plant. Also, often you'll find when you wash the dirt out of the roots its actually several plants next to each other.


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That is an excellent coloration bunch above, leaf textures all dark green growth really nice.




lol found it scroll through 500 pics. The vine was 5 yrs established and covered about half four walls. It would have taken another two yrs to get 360 around living room but a flooring contractor cut it off in the door

I was shocked lol

the pic is nbd but it indeed shows one of the longest pothos growths ever

I've heard stories from my grandmother that she had friends who did this in the 60s and covered multiple rooms. I believe it
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Vanish, it looks like the Peperomia 'Emerald Ripple' is just sitting on the lid of the tank. Have you had any luck with Peperomias in this sort of set up? They seem to be more succulent than many house plants.
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