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What would neon paradise be?

Just for sake of conversation, what would absolute paradise be for Neon Tetras?

I'm talking temp, ph, GH, substrate, specific plants, etc.
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soft, blackwater, dirt bottom with lots of leaf litter and dw, maybe some val's mixed in.. just a mess of inter twined branches and such.. some floaters like frog bit or water lettuce maybe..
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Do you have to replace leaf litter often given it breaks down eventually and becomes part of the substrate?
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Do you have to replace leaf litter often given it breaks down eventually and becomes part of the substrate?
I guess it's a matter of preference, to much decomposition may muck up the water, I've also heard that it's a good microorganism bed.. if you're breeding that's a major bonus..
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So...somewhat counter intuitively, LEAVING dead plant material is a good thing in this context? I certainly dont mind the look but I've always been told to get it out of there.
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So...somewhat counter intuitively, LEAVING dead plant material is a good thing in this context? I certainly dont mind the look but I've always been told to get it out of there.
I'm not sure it's a good or bad thing, an excess of rotting organics will probably cause an issue yes, I personally remove the decom. Almond leaves as they look crappy and make a mess.
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Some vids of natural habitat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4DaP8HQyBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj8GV0flPbk

A little dead, dried leaves isn't bad. It adds tannins in the water like driftwood. You can use driftwood instead.
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Great vid! Around 4:00, see them nip at the leaves?! That's what I'm talking about
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What would neon paradise be?

Peat, leaf litter, maybe some loose moss. RO water or vapor distilled water. Low flow filtration.

Possiy a layer of activated carbon or charcoal under the peat. I'd also seed the peat with black worms. Potentially add daphnia and Copepoda too.

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Healthy planted tank with clean, slightly acidic water is fine, and they don't mind extreme low ph with high TDS as long as water is clean.
In their natural habitat, water primeter change year round.


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The more, the merrier. This is a fish that feels safer the bigger the school they are in. Make sure there are always tall plants for them to dart into. I've found that if I completely cover the back of my tank in tall plants, that schooling fish feel secure enough to school more in front where I can watch them, knowing that safety is so close.





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I've added peat sere peat granulates and IAL and my cardinals, rummy nose tetras, congo tetras and GBRs are thriving.
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