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Excel kills what

Does anybody have a list of plants that excel will kill?

Right know I have DIY CO2 going in my tank and I have algae out the yin yang and I was pondering using Excel.

My Plants-
- Echinodorus 'Kleiner Bär'
- Cryptocoryne Wendtii red
- Rotala Indica
- Hygrophila difformis
-Lilaeopsis brasiliensis

Are any of these gonna melt if I put excel in?
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Rotala Indica
Hygrophila difformis

I have both of those and those will do just fine with excel dosing. Not sure about the other ones
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All the plants you have listed will be fine with excel

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My Rotala Indica loves excel. I cant get rid of the stuff it grows so fast, in fact it seems like its the only plant in my tank thats growing right now.
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Excel will kill EVERYTHING if overdosed.

I think the main concern was for Vals. They are super sensitive for some reason.


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ya it will melt vals. accidentally squirted some excel over their leaves and the next day they were fallin apart. i dose 2x the recommended amount in my tank and the vals are fine as long as the stuff isn't applied on them

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Vals, Egeria, Elodea, Hydrilla, Lagarosiphon are the known plant genera that are sensitive to it.

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Excel will kill EVERYTHING if overdosed.

I think the main concern was for Vals. They are super sensitive for some reason.

Excel I think has copper in it, that (the trace amounts of copper) will kill the Vals
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Excel I think has copper in it, that (the trace amounts of copper) will kill the Vals
Will Excel kill my RCS then?
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Will Excel kill my RCS then?
a guy i know kills them whenever he puts too much in. they apparently can survive low dosing. he warned me about using it with mine. he recommended 1ml dose for my 42 gal tank. sure someone else here could offer better guidelines though as i might have misunderstood the amount.
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a guy i know kills them whenever he puts too much in. they apparently can survive low dosing. he warned me about using it with mine. he recommended 1ml dose for my 42 gal tank. sure someone else here could offer better guidelines though as i might have misunderstood the amount.
My rcs do fine with 5ml in a 29g, i even overdosed to 8ml in a 29 every other day and saw no ill effects (unless you consider algae death to be an ill effect)
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In my 75 and old 29 gallon I've dosed 4 times over the recomended amount a bunch of times with no ill effects from my plants or fish, amano shrimp. But I'm probably pushing my luck.
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Thanks For the advice! I love this site

Does anybody know where it can be purchased?
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i dose 5 ish ml per day in my 20g and my shrimp are breeding. just makes the vals melt if i accidentally squirt it on them

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You can get excel on drfoster, petmountain, ebay as well. If your gonna get some and plan on using for a while go ahead and get as big as u can for as cheap as you can. I got a 2L for $22 bargain considering 100ml bottle at the lfs cost $10, so shop around
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