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Considering A pressurized CO2 unit have questions.

I am considering Saving for a Pressurized CO2 system, and i have some questions. Im thinking about Red Sea Paintball Cylinder Style Regulator KIT, Does anyone have this? How long do the Paint Ball Cylinders last if your running say 30ppm co2?How Long would a 2.5 lb Cylinder last? How long does a 5lb Cylinder last if i get a unit for standard CO2 tanks? How long does a 20LB cylinder last?
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A typical paintball canister 20 to 24 ounce, lasts about a month. Refills cost usually around five dollars. 5 pound cylinder lasts around six months, 10 pounds 1 year, 20 pound 2 years.

The advantage of the painball is it is very compact in size. Taking up so little room its never an eye sore. The red sea complete system Pro includes EVERYTHING, solenoid, needle valve, power diffusor, drop checker.

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The paintball setups are only good for very small tanks otherwise you will be refilling constantly and end up paying way more for gas over time. How big is your tank?
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it's a lot cheaper to fill a 5 and 10lb cylinder vs. a paintball cylinder.
i could get a 5lb filled for $9.

just something to think about.

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Im thinking about it for my 55g, the problem isn't the refill cost its the tank itself 20lb tank, 171.71(locally) 17.22 to refill it. But worth it if it will last 2 years!
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i have a 5lb setup. refills costs me $12 and last me about a year at about 2bps.

it is the way to go as paintball systems are costly. ofcourse if space is your ultimate concern, then paintball systems are not bad.
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Im thinking about it for my 55g, the problem isn't the refill cost its the tank itself 20lb tank, 171.71(locally) 17.22 to refill it. But worth it if it will last 2 years!
Paintball system is not going to last you long at all in a 55g tank. The frequency of which you'd have to refill would be a pain. For the same price as that Red Sea complete, you can buy from Green Leaf, Sumo, or Rex Grigg.

If you want to spend less but still get a quality product, then you can go with the JBJ or Milwaukee regulator.

Is that $171 for a filled or empty tank? Sometimes you can save quite a bit if you buy the tank online. Micromatic has a 20lb empty tank for $110.

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Paintball system is not going to last you long at all in a 55g tank. The frequency of which you'd have to refill would be a pain. For the same price as that Red Sea complete, you can buy from Green Leaf, Sumo, or Rex Grigg.

If you want to spend less but still get a quality product, then you can go with the JBJ or Milwaukee regulator.

Is that $171 for a filled or empty tank? Sometimes you can save quite a bit if you buy the tank online. Micromatic has a 20lb empty tank for $110.

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That was the quote for empty, so ya im looking around.
I really want something that is a Complete Kit, that all i have to do is put it together and turn it on! That why i was looking at the paint ball kit it has everything you need to set it up and go!

Ok i looked at the links above and ill be quite honest, i have no CLUE what i should buy with all the different parts Needle valves,Mainfolds,regulators etc. i am looking for a Complete no brainer Kit, just hook it up drop the reactor in the tank and go type set up.
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The JBJ is a complete kit(regulator, solenoid, bubble counter with built in check valve, needle valve). The only thing that it doesn't come with is tubing, which you can buy anywhere, and a diffuser(tons of decent ones on ebay). The other thing is that the PSI is not adjustable, so that is 1 less thing to worry about if you are an idiot like me.
Here is epicfish's review.
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I would agree about the paintball idea I have a 45g corner tank and in the process in getting all my co2 parts. if your on a budget try eseasongear.com they carry milwaukee products... but if no budget then go to rexgrigg nice stuff... try ebay or craig list for co2 tanks... if u live in a small town check to c what size they fill... bought a 2.5lb and found out the smallest they fill is 5lb. other then that wish u luck...
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I paid $60 for a filled 10# tank (aluminum) and $45 for a filled 15# tank (steel).
The 10# lasts about 6 months, but I use it on three tanks.

It costs $10 to refill the 10 and $15 to refill the 15. Funny thing is that it would still be $10 to refill a 5. heh.
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