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Hey All,
I've been looking at this product and it seems to be combination dechlorinator/Biological enhancer.Am I understanding this product correctly?Wouldf I simply add to new water during a water change
dechlorinating and adding beneficial bacteria at the same time?I would appreciate if anyone with experience with this product could chime in with
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Not a biological enhancer. Just dechlor. Locks up chlorine, breaks apart the chlorine-ammonia bond of chloramine. It also locks up ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. These are still available to the beneficial bacteria, just not a problem for the fish.
One of the best priced materials out there, and does a good job with much smaller dose than most competing products.

If you want to add nitrifying bacteria look for a product with Nitrospira on the label.
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I only use it for water changes to dechlorinate the water and it works great.
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It DE-chlorinates water, but does not have beneficial bacteria (BB) in the bottle.
In up to 5x doses it also binds ammonia/nitrite for 48 hours (makes fish safe but allows BB and plants to still absorb ammonia/nitrite).
I use it for all water changes, squirt some in the bag of any new fish i receive, and put some extra into a tank that I juts added a new fish just in case, so a little ammonia spike doesn't effect anyone.

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Great stuff although I switched to the powder version for even more savings. (Seachem Safe).

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Great stuff although I switched to the powder version for even more savings. (Seachem Safe).
Same here. I go through 90 to 130 gallons daily in water changes and I figured this one out REAL fast.

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Since this is here. I fill my tank one gallon at a time after water changes (15 gallons) is it better to put the prime in prior to putting the new 15 gallons in or after you have put the 15 gallons in?
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You can do either, but I put Prime into the bucket of new water before it goes into the tank. I do 5g at a time for my large tanks and its easier to do 0.5ml Prime than 5.5 ml (in 55g tank) after. But I've not done a 100% water change (full drain and refill) in a long while, if you're doing this, as long as you don't forget to dose Prime, its fine to put in after. If you put untreated water into a tank, you have to dose prime according to the tank's whole water volume, which makes you go through the stuff quicker.

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The most often missed point on dechlor products is the difference in the amount to use when treating in the tank or before adding water. The chemicals in the product have to find the chemicals you want to bind up and they have a certain amount of time to do it.

Thinking of it as you finding a friend at a party may help. If you look for the friend at a party of 10, you can find them in the right amount of time. But if you are looking for them in a group of 100, you need more friends to help you get it done before the time expires.

So if you are treating a five gallon bucket before adding to the tank, it takes less to treat than if you pour the five gallons into a 100 gallon tank and then treat it.

Either way works but if you want to save dechlor product, treat before adding to the tank. If you want to treat in the tank, use the amount recommended for the total tank volume.

Techie term? diffusion.
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Is Seachem Prime much different from Amquel Plus?
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The most often missed point on dechlor products is the difference in the amount to use when treating in the tank or before adding water. The chemicals in the product have to find the chemicals you want to bind up and they have a certain amount of time to do it.

Thinking of it as you finding a friend at a party may help. If you look for the friend at a party of 10, you can find them in the right amount of time. But if you are looking for them in a group of 100, you need more friends to help you get it done before the time expires.

So if you are treating a five gallon bucket before adding to the tank, it takes less to treat than if you pour the five gallons into a 100 gallon tank and then treat it.

Either way works but if you want to save dechlor product, treat before adding to the tank. If you want to treat in the tank, use the amount recommended for the total tank volume.

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I don't think I've seen this spelled out so clearly before.

Well written!

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Same here. I go through 90 to 130 gallons daily in water changes and I figured this one out REAL fast.
250g or so but not daily. Monthly lol.

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Thank for all the responses,good info as usual.
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