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post #1 of 63 (permalink) Old 08-24-2014, 01:58 AM Thread Starter
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Consistent Cloudyness

Ever since I pulled up a monster Wysteria plant and had some of the dirt below break the gravel make it to the surface and make water all dirty. I have not gotten the tank water to stay clear ever since. For 3 weeks in a row i have gravel vac the gravel slightly across the surface and got a decent amount of sediment the first time less the second and essentially less the yet the third to none. Changed probably 90 percent of the water. Each time i have cleaned the marineland filter and replaced fine filter pads. But still usually by the end of the week it turns so cloudy that i cant see back of the 150 gallon tank. Any ideas. I have no dirt showing through the gravel cap. Will see by this friday if it goes back to cloudy or not. Then i give up and going to eco-complete or something i guess????

Here is what I have today after this mornings huge water change again for third time.

Bump: Will post another pic of it mid week and one end of week to show how it does this time
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I had a similar situation. I removed a large portion on dwarf sag. And had the water cloud up on me for weeks. I tried to wait it out thinking it was a bacterial bloom but it did not clear up.

5 drops of "Tetra Algae Control" and the next morning it was clear. 5 drops in my 36gal is much less than the recommended dose of 36 drops.

I dosed 5 drops every other day for 5 doses just to make sure. I was also running carbon at the time. I have Amano shrimp that stayed in for the treatment but I removed my large snails just to be safe.


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Use of a flocculent, or micron cartridge in your filter might help. Some people have used filter floss in the filter to remove the suspended particles.
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I had a similar situation. I removed a large portion on dwarf sag. And had the water cloud up on me for weeks. I tried to wait it out thinking it was a bacterial bloom but it did not clear up.

5 drops of "Tetra Algae Control" and the next morning it was clear. 5 drops in my 36gal is much less than the recommended dose of 36 drops.

I dosed 5 drops every other day for 5 doses just to make sure. I was also running carbon at the time. I have Amano shrimp that stayed in for the treatment but I removed my large snails just to be safe.


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So the cloud was loose algae? And you've had no return of it since then? I've got a 36 gallon with that problem, too. Not heavily planted, but I'm working on it.
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It might be time to try a water clarifier. I have been tempted to use one in the past after a major replant that took weeks to completely clear up. Seachem makes one that is highly rated.

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So the cloud was loose algae? And you've had no return of it since then? I've got a 36 gallon with that problem, too. Not heavily planted, but I'm working on it.
it could have been algae. It was not green at all. And I tested with white paper and a white cup.. Here is what I tried.
Carbon no effect.
Seachem Clarity no effect with repeated doses
Polyester, fiber-fill, in my canister
3 day blackout.

Nothing worked.

I read in one obscure old thread that a few drops of algaecide might clear up cloudy water. And it worked..
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Causes of cloudy water:
Beginnings of green water algae. It does look white or off white at first. Testing by looking at the water against a white background may show it is really green.

Heterotrophic bacteria. These grow fast when they have a food source (debris from uprooting a plant, in this case) but die down once the food is gone. Water change and wait it out.

Fish stirring the substrate, or uprooting the plant. Trapping the material in fine filter. Perhaps adding flocculent.

pH altering materials added to the water.

Something else dissolving in the water- Did someone over feed? Even though the foods say they do not cloud the water, a massive over feeding could. You would see the flakes on the floor of the tank.

Something else added to the tank. Anything else.
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Tried a water clarifier no effect. Not tried a algea killer. Fish usually eat all flake food before it hits floor except for shrimp pellets but Cory's usually eat them till gone. I did double up a fine filter material in the canister filter.
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post #9 of 63 (permalink) Old 08-26-2014, 01:39 AM Thread Starter
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Here is what it looks like today Monday August 25 did the water change Saturday August 23. Already getting cloudy again. Did dose with some algea stuff today Tetra broad spectrum algae control.
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So how does it look now?

Did the algacide work?
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grossgraphics, I am having the exact same issue. In a normally crystal clear tank all of a sudden for the last month its been cloudy. here is a pic of mine,

normally like this

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Here is what it looks like mid week. Can dose for algae again tomorrow. But so far no effect
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Bummer.. It drove me crazy when my tank went cloudy.
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last night I took the advice of JasterMake and added like a half dose of API algaefix....holy smokes what a difference it made. I watched my fish really close, only thing I saw was some heavy breathing for like 30 seconds but nothing else. water cleared within 30 minutes and this morning crystal clear!

Thanks JasterMake!!

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maybe ill have to try that jmf3460 because this tetra stuff done nothing so far.
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