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So, I have been finding holes and ragged edges on some of the leaves of some of my plants, and I've been trying to figure out the problem...
I'm well versed in what CO2 deficiency looks like and this wasn't it.
I already add 1 1/2 times EI levels of ferts, so nutrient deficiency was unlikely, but still possible.
My bristlenose is too big to hang on the leaves affected, so it wasn't him/her.

It turns out....





Pond snails eat plants You can clearly see the gas bubbles coming out of the recently sliced tissue! Grrrrr, there is gonna be a snailicide!


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make sure theres no inverts in your tank, i believe snail killers kill more than snails..

edit: inverts other than your enemy
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Yeah, I'm not going to use chemicals.
I'm starting with a two prong plan, leaving cucumber slices in the tank overnight, then putting any snails attached in the freezer come morning.
When (if) I see a serious decline in these guys, I'll introduce a bunch of ramshorns. I don't know why, but I've never had pond snails get a foothold in a tank that already had an established ramshorn population. I think the ramshorns might eat the pond snails eggs.

Hopefully it will work out, I have a ton of dwarf narrow leaf J fern that should look great, but looks more like a madagascar lace plant


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I sympathize with your pain. I got pond snails on my plants and their population exploded before I had any fish in the tank. At first I thought they were helping me out by eating algae off of my plants, until I finally realized the truth. And since the plants were weakened, algae was gaining the upper hand.

Lucky for me, I had planned to get loaches for my tank and they have taken care of the problem. My plants are in good health so the algae is almost gone and the water quality is vastly improved. I tried the cucumber trick but had little luck. If I was lucky I would get 10 baby snails but that was a drop in the bucket to how many were in the tank.
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Yeah, I came home one day and a pond snail was eating leaves off of my petites!!

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Ooh, A. petite is another they are shredding
Unfortunately, there is no room in the tank for loaches, they might be a little aggro for the residents anyway.

Anyone have any other good tricks I can try?


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I've never had pond snails before but my guess would be a two pronged attack:
- borrow some baby loaches from someone and let them put a big dent in the snail population. Then you can pass them on to a bigger tank.
- Next, I'd get myself some pretty non-plant eating snails that will eat all the other snail eggs. I got some beautiful Asolene Spix snails from Ebichua that I heard really decimated his snail population.

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If you originally planned to get ramshorn snails, then try them out. Otherwise if the cucumber trick does not work, I would try assassin snails. But read up on them here:

http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic....er=asc&start=0

Do you have shrimp in your tank? Because some people said they eat shrimp but that may be only when they are not well fed.
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when i had a pond snail break out i just picked them out of the tank. since they laid their eggs in big sacks i just found those and pulled them out too. havent had a pond snail since.
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when i had a pond snail break out i just picked them out of the tank. since they laid their eggs in big sacks i just found those and pulled them out too. havent had a pond snail since.
Now that would be a first.
You can keep their numbers in check by constantly picking them out,but getting rid of them entirely is another story.

Maybe there are different subspecies,because I have never found evidence that they are eating my plants.If they are it is not apparent.

Maybe I am just lucky.


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Maybe there are different subspecies,because I have never found evidence that they are eating my plants.If they are it is not apparent.
These have been in my tank for months, and the plant eating only started recently. Unlike my amanos and bristlenose, they don't seem to go after fish food to supplement their algae diet, so I think there isn't enough algae to go around and they got hungry...


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Those assassin snails are a bit intimidating!


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Assassin Snails cause no damage to plants eat other snails will not eat their own kind and breed slowly... So perfect snail control...
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borrow some baby loaches from someone and let them put a big dent in the snail population. Then you can pass them on to a bigger tank.
That's an idea there. Check with you LFS's, maybe you can work something out.

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