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post #1 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-19-2014, 06:17 PM Thread Starter
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New to planted tanks, please help!

I converted my tank to a planted tank almost a month ago. I have a fluval spec III. I upgraded the tank light to the fluval 13 watt compact and have taken every step to help the plants grow but I seem to be failing in the planted tank endeavor. I chose the Eco-Complete planted substrate because it had some of the best reviews on amazon but I am not so sure about it now.

The dwarf baby tears I originally added didn't make it and had to be removed. The dwarf hair grass has a lot of brown and dead grass in it. The moneywort has some dead leaves and the java moss constantly has brown in it. I dont know what Im doing wrong. I'm doing the water changes weekly, Seachem Flourish once a week and Seachem Flourish Excel daily. The tank light is on at least 9 hours a day. Is there anything else I should be doing or adding to the tank? Any help would be extremely appreciated.
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post #2 of 39 (permalink) Old 08-20-2014, 07:18 AM Thread Starter
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No one has any suggestions or advice? I really need some assistance here please.
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Get flourish. "Flourish comprehensive" it helps with the ferts for the plants. How's your stock? My dwarf hairgrass isn't carpeting but for the month I've had it the only problem I got is floating. Everything is greener than a whistle with the dosings.
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Im currently using Flourish and Flourish Excel. My stock? I have one betta and two otto catfish, if you mean the fish I currently have.
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What size tank is it?
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Im currently using Flourish and Flourish Excel. My stock? I have one betta and two otto catfish, if you mean the fish I currently have.
What about your levels ? (ph, nitrates etc.?) Furthermore if its a spec 3....which I believe is a 2.6, I think your wattage may be high for your tank...Also sorry aha misread the flourish skip. I suggest to tone down the dosages of flourish to once or twice....may have the algae blooooom

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What size tank is it?
Fluval spec 3 seems to be 2.6

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However correct me if I am wrong, maybe we can narrow it downsss

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Baby tears require high light and a lot of Co2 to thrive. Are you running Co2 in this tank at all?


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What size tank is it?
Ahhh.. That's why I didn't know the size..
I never even considered getting a nano tank.. Sorry I can't help you...
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What about your levels ? (ph, nitrates etc.?) Furthermore if its a spec 3....which I believe is a 2.6, I think your wattage may be high for your tank...Also sorry aha misread the flourish skip. I suggest to tone down the dosages of flourish to once or twice....may have the algae blooooom



Fluval spec 3 seems to be 2.6

Link-tastic:
http://www.amazon.com/Fluval-Spec-Aq.../dp/B009K0ZKAQ

However correct me if I am wrong, maybe we can narrow it downsss
I'm only using Flourish once a week

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Baby tears require high light and a lot of Co2 to thrive. Are you running Co2 in this tank at all?
This light certainly gives the tank the "high light" category but no Co2 for this tank so that may explain the baby tears not making it.

Bump: Is there something else I should be dosing the tank with, something perhaps I missed completely?
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I'm only using Flourish once a week

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This light certainly gives the tank the "high light" category but no Co2 for this tank so that may explain the baby tears not making it

Bump: Is there something else I should be dosing the tank with, something perhaps I missed completely?
If it's generally high light territory you need co2 in order to sustain it, (excel not sufficient enough)
Could be due to burning as your tank is small but you have more lighting than high lighting should be perhaps. Co2 can indeed be a factor, try some Co2? DIY it or something but make sure you have something to maintain and observe you don't have too much.
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If you really want to get into ferts, I would ditch the flourish stuff, and just simply go with the EI method.

This will provide you with every fert you need, for a fraction of the cost compared to purchasing bottles.

http://greenleafaquariums.com/aquari...rtilizers.html

$15 for the EI package, and for your size tank.... it will last you over 2 years.


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Your hair grass is dying because you don't have enough light.
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Your hair grass is dying because you don't have enough light.
I find that very hard to believe

Bump: I am trying to keep this as a low tech tank, I am not ready to move onto Co2. All of the conflicting opinions has turned me off to the whole planted tank endeavor. Not to mention the money I have spent converting the tank.
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Hi Jsalexson4689,

I think you need to read Darkblade's Primer to Planted Tanks. It may be more information than you need and you'll probably have to read it over a few times to truly digest everything in there but it's well worth it to sort your thoughts out.

If you're not ready to move into co2, and since you're barely fertilizing, you may need to cut down on your light. Light is not supposed to be the first thing to upgrade. It seems like it is because it's the cool thing to do and it looks good but it really isn't. Trust the many algae ridden tanks before you. You may also need to find plants that are more forgiving of no co2. Planted tanks 'can' be easy. You just have to figure out how not to fight nature
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Let me just say I did not take the planted tank conversion lightly, I did as much research as I could in preparing for it. It was not an inexpensive choice either.

The various sources that I found online had stated that lighting was one of the most important aspects of the planted tank hence why I upgraded the light, I also changed the substrate to Eco-Complete. For selecting the plants I tried to choose plants that were hardy and could survive in a nano tank but I think I was mislead.

I purchased a timer for the light last night so it will now have a consistent 8 hours of light. I also purchased Seachem Flourish Root Tabs and Seachem Plant Pack Enhancers, NPK. I hope this is a step in the right direction.

Does anyone have any suggestions on plants that I can get for my tank that will thrive in high light adding Co2?
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