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aquascaping stones...

Does Yamaya Stone have an actual english name?! or is it something only in a japan? I'm trying to find aquascaping stone that is Inert since my PH is at 7.4, dont want it going any higher. I'm having a very hard time finding yamaya stones (Dont wanna order from ADA, too expensive). Any alternatives that look similair to Yamaya, Manten or Seiyru that are Intert? stuff that can be founf in a rock querry in the US?
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I think you are in an area that has lots of granite? In most cases it will be inert. I would first look around at some ads on the internet for landscape stone to check pictures of what the local places carry, then take a trip by if it looks like what you want. Much cheaper than hobby supply stores.

Anything like this maybe?
http://bighornrocks.com/application-...scape-boulders
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heh, didnt know Colorado had alot of Granite. Not really sure what it looks likes before being processed. gotta check that out.
What about the Grey stones by the Railways? any experience with those? like the ones in the pic below.
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I'm pretty sure that gravel/rubble/whatever used in railways is probably whatever is available cheap and local.

When I was on the East coast, a lot of that stuff was limestone. Near old foundries and such, they tended to use a lot of slag, and I've seen granite and basalt used as well.
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So I took one of them rocks from by the railroad... I dumped the whole rock in a big bowl of vinegar and not a single bubble. They kinda look like granite... i think... I"ll take a close up pic of it in a bit and post it.
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Rail ballast is often different depending on the location and the use of the line. If it is a shortline that carries little traffic the ballast will not be as high quality as that used by a major carrier on a mainline. Granite would seem to be a very logical one to find on a Colorado line. Part of the question on how expensive an item like ballast is how far it has to be brought in as well as how available it is in the area. Granite would seem to be a natural for you.
But then whether to pick it off the RR might be another question. RR are notorious as polluted areas so be ready to do a bleach soak to clear that question.
Also you may find that the landscape places are so low cost and have such a wide variety of types that you really can't afford to drive far to look at ballast which may not be the size you want.
Ditches where broken stone is used to stop washouts is also another handy spot to check.
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I actually work where there are a TON of railroad lines, and this one I picked up was part of a pile freshly dumped there last week. I'm just not sure whether its legal or not, lol. if someone sees me taking a few and what not. I'm gonna visit a landscaping place to see what they got.
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I agree that whatever is cheap and local is probably the material used by the RR.

On the other hand, landscape rock is hauled by railroad across the nation.

If the RR had a specific need for rock with particular characteristics, they would certainly be in the position of hauling whatever they needed from wherever to wherever.

Go to the landscape stores, you are likely to find the widest selection of rocks. Bring baggies and a Sharpie marker to label samples.
Look around locally, where it is legal to collect.

Take your finds home and test:
A glass of water with nothing in it, just the water.
A separate container for each sample.

Test GH, KH, pH, and TDS at the beginning and every few days.
Carry the test out as long as you want, but a week is reasonable.
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