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DIY stand build HELP please

please give me some advice or comments on this stand build. incase your wondering, those are dado joints. thank you

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Without knowing what you like in the "look" may make my views a bit out of line?

From a strength view, it is plenty strong. Possibly too strong but then you may have designed it to look strong. Much better too strong than the other way!
Are you leaving it open or putting a skin on it? For making a skin a bit easier, I might look at moving the front two uprights on left and right in under the top ring of boards so the front is all one level. This would leave the weight still resting on solid wood from top to bottom as you have it now. I like adding a skin as it makes a good place to hide things.
Not a bad design at all. From there much depends on what you like. Far more than what we may like.
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Way too much wood. Bottom shelf should be off the floor. Four legs are the only thing that should touch the floor. Way too much wood.

Actually they're bridle joints.
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Hard to evaluate without knowing the size of the tank. Off hand, to me its not a great design because you are putting the load on the cross members before transferring it to the vertical members. If you move the legs under the tank it will be much stronger.

Proven overkill stand design:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4Y9AYuwcQ


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I think they are actually some kind of lap joint. If you simply replace the four outside 2x4 with some plywood you will get a stronger stand with more racking strength. Three sides would work and you could add a door if you want.
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Hard to evaluate without knowing the size of the tank. Off hand, to me its not a great design because you are putting the load on the cross members before transferring it to the vertical members. If you move the legs under the tank it will be much stronger.

Proven overkill stand design:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN4Y9AYuwcQ
The tank is so close to the joint and the legs it won't matter a hill of beans.

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I think they are actually some kind of lap joint. If you simply replace the four outside 2x4 with some plywood you will get a stronger stand with more racking strength. Three sides would work and you could add a door if you want.
Lap joints are generally face to face. While not a true bridle joint that is about as close a descriptor as you get.
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Holy. What did you do, rob a lumber yard? Unless you like the look, you can bring that down a few notches. There are tons of DIY stands on this site. Do some searching.

Bump: Have a look at this one for example.


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"In the same vein, we seldom perceive the rabbet as part of a frame joint. But almost all end-lap variations incorporate a rabbet cut in at least one of the mating parts."
http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/Ma...uter-9257.aspx
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Before we get too concerned about the name of the joint, he may have only meant that he was going to cut the notches with a dado. He may not really be into naming his joints!

It is a really strong stand. Perhaps using a bit more wood than I would but then it is his stand. The weight is all supported on solid wood top to bottom and if the joints are screwed and glued using two screws into each end, that will be somewhere around 32 screws to break as well as the glue before any racking is possible.
That leaves no doubt to me that it can stand any load he puts on it. From there it's just personal design fluff!
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