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Plants for cichlid tank?

Hey guys, if I were to try a planted cichlid tank, which plants could I put in the tank?

LFS says Anubias is just about the only thing I can put in with them but I hardly believe that..

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What kind of cichlids?

Depending on which ones you're referring to, your LFS is probably correct. Many cichlids will eat, dig up, pull up, or otherwise destroy plants.

Dwarf cichlids, however, tend to be great choices for planted tanks (Rams and Apistos some of the most common).





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I just read something on this and it was referencing the particular species' diet. They say the carnivorous species should be fine for planted tanks but my dilemma then, is that the high-pH requirement of cichlids brings the plant candidates down to about 3...

I was looking at the photo competition winners and that electric blue cichlid - looking fish... What is that? Probably one of the fish you mentioned?

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Are you talking about african cichlids? Then yes, you are going to have some limitations. Send Maclellan a PM here. He has a few setups with Africans going.

If they are New World cichlids, then this is a totally different story.


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Just saw your post... electric blue is african. So, Anubias, java ferns, vals, etc. Limited, yet can still look amazing.


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Awesome, thanks for the info!! Now if I could just find some java!

My pH is going to be 8.0-9.0, that gonna be alright for the plants?

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Yes, they are African...

Would South American cichlids be much more accepting of other plant species?

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Yes, they are African...

Would South American cichlids be much more accepting of other plant species?
For the most part, yes. The requirements for water parameters are mostly opposite that of africans, and if you are selective of the species, compliment very well with a planted tank.


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Even saying "Africans" is too general as is saying "New World."

Africans:
Malawi Mbunas are pretty much out (herbivores). Trust me.
Haps and Peacocks can work with more plant species. They are insectivores.
Very few Tanganyika cichlids are herbivores, but some are diggers.
There are some nice Victorians too...
and West African Riverine cichlids like the Butterfly cichlid that are so popular in European planted tanks.

...and new world.
Severums? Lawn mowers.
Oscars? Home decorators.
Firemouths are okay, but are diggers. Same with Geophagus.
Most central americans have attitude, and destroy what they can, in my experience. They seem to relish it. Permanent teenagers.

For full-on planted tanks, most South American dwarves are ideal, as are most West African riverine cichlids.

Everything else is for those with very good experience levels with both planted tanks and with cichlids, in my not-so-humble opinion.
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I was refering more toward like Discus and Rams really Mac. In my stupitiy I didn't really think to divulge the larger cichlids thinking that its just a no brainer not to add them. I should have spoke up better. Thanks for correcting me.


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in my cichlids tank (electric yellows and fire mouths) i keep a variety of plants including HC, cobumba (spelling), amazon swords, Ludwig (spelling) and a few others my parameters are
Ph 8.2
hardness 300+
KH 300 +

all my plants seem fine it has been set up like this for about 8 months
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I've got an albino zebra, electric yellow, orange cromide, and melanochromis auratus.

I PM'd mac and he basically LOL'd at the zebra - and wished me luck growing anything :p

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Zebra no good. Auratus... man they are nasty. Probably one of the most aggressive I have had.


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I was refering more toward like Discus and Rams really Mac. In my stupitiy I didn't really think to divulge the larger cichlids thinking that its just a no brainer not to add them. I should have spoke up better. Thanks for correcting me.
I was responding to you and particular, just the generality of the discussion. This tends to happen when says "cichlids and plants" without further information.
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My experience so far: Java fern and moss are fine - the moss keeps up with the bit of pruning the demasoni and yellow labs give it. Giant Hygro and narrow leaf hygro are fine so far - an occasional giant hygro leaf gets torn, but no big deal. Surprisingly the hygro sunset has become a low-growing plant due to the constant "pruning" from the fish. I'm going to have to rip it out. My crypt wendtii's and bacopa are left alone as well.

Keep the plants growing and be willing to change out some plants for others.

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