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Does high co2 cause moss to get algae?

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I have yet to see a high co2 tank with good moss or prime moss without algae. I haven't seen all the tanks on the web but tell me what you think....
If you disagree, lemme show you something.
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My java moss seems to attract algea. Im just getting over an algea bloom. But my Monostelarium moss might have spelt that wrong, is clean. But whay would make algea present only on one plant if everythings in order. Hmm
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Shrimp are the best moss cleaners but high co2 and shrimp don't mix that well. The mosses that I know also do better at lower temps and lower light. High tech tanks are mostly color stems, with space at a premium. Just thinking aloud.

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My java moss seems to attract algea. Im just getting over an algea bloom. But my Monostelarium moss might have spelt that wrong, is clean. But whay would make algea present only on one plant if everythings in order. Hmm
Hmmmm is right, interesting...

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Shrimp are the best moss cleaners but high co2 and shrimp don't mix that well. The mosses that I know also do better at lower temps and lower light. High tech tanks are mostly color stems, with space at a premium. Just thinking aloud.

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I totally agree except for the fact that shrimp are the best cleaners, they barely even phase or hinder algae in my opinion, maybe amanos are different but I've never owned one.
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Fissidens for me , and most moss act like a algae magnet to me.

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Fissidens for me , and most moss act like a algae magnet to me.

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fissidens actually does better in co2
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fissidens actually does better in co2
Good to know. About to add them to the tops of my coconut caves. Java was getting the gray algae buildup on it.

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My java moss turned a dark ugly, near-black gray when I added just a bit of CO2 in my 75. Not sure if it was algae or what, I just took it all out.


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My java moss turned a dark ugly, near-black gray when I added just a bit of CO2 in my 75. Not sure if it was algae or what, I just took it all out.
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Shrimp are the best moss cleaners but high co2 and shrimp don't mix that well. The mosses that I know also do better at lower temps and lower light. High tech tanks are mostly color stems, with space at a premium. Just thinking aloud.

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I also disagree with the high co2 and shrimp don't mix, I've seen it done, right now I've got RBT cull juvies in my tank, I hope they survive, but as long as your plants are producing or your tank has enough oxygen content then should be fine and your tds is in the proper measurements
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Moss are very susceptible to hair algae. In my latest tank I have had luck with keeping my moss relatively algae free. I have soft water (5 dGH) and around 80 RCS (in a 120 gallon tank). I manually remove whatever I see. I think shrimp are more of a preventative measure, helping to prevent a sever outbreak rather than fixing one that's already struck.

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My java moss turned a dark ugly, near-black gray when I added just a bit of CO2 in my 75. Not sure if it was algae or what, I just took it all out.
That's weird. I guess every tank is different. I have a tank with Java moss, and I light that tank up with CO2, my drop checker is yellow, i'm definitely at 50 ppm. My Moss grows like crazy and has no algae. When I first bought the moss it had hair algae on it already, but it quickly died. Maybe I'm just lucky.


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That's weird. I guess every tank is different. I have a tank with Java moss, and I light that tank up with CO2, my drop checker is yellow, i'm definitely at 50 ppm. My Moss grows like crazy and has no algae. When I first bought the moss it had hair algae on it already, but it quickly died. Maybe I'm just lucky.
is it all stringy and messy growth or is it all full and thick and divine?
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Now for the arguing

Observe these two pictures, sorry I never took a full tank shot, these shots are back in Aug. 2007. So in the two pics observe the plants and observe the moss. The plants are algae free and the moss is green and all but just covered in algae. I must've tried co2 with moss like about 2-3 times but never documented it much. Lighting may also be an issue however I doubt that cause the moss is nice and green and baby tears are growing up not foregroundish. Back then "I" didn't even know about fertilizers which also has never been needed with my moss tanks and my tap water. This is just observation and no statements, it just seems to go this way. No worries on temperature as california is always good weather. Watcha guys think now?
If you don't notice the algae cause its all green and blurry, I can probably find some more closeups
the in tank reactor is behind the baby tears


this is the kind've algae i was dealing with, just filthy sick
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lighting issue? co2 issue?

lights were two dual shoplights t12 bulbs 48" fit perfectly on this standard 55g
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