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First Time Post! What do you think of my tank?

Hey,

This is my first day on the forum. Ive had various aquariums for 17 years, however this is my first true effort at a planted tank.

Set up: 10 glass rimless cube no top (3.5 gallon), fluval nano led (84 leds/7800k/8 watts) on 8 hours daily, fluorite black substrate, flourish/excel/iron, red sea mini clear filter with just filter fiber, ehime 25 watt heater, no CO2 system.

Looking to work with what I have hardware wise aka no CO2. So far I have 1 java fern, 1 anubious, 1 betta, 1 baby ottocat, 1 small drift wood. Getting more plants soon as Im interested in the "full/ grown in look. Recommendations on fert dosing? plant type recommendations? Not looking for something I must trim weekly.

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Little brown algae from lack of plants I think. Why I got the otto.


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Looks like you are off to a good start! You may want to grade the substrate some, so it is lower in the front and higher in the rear, this will create a better since of depth in the aquarium, since you don't have a lot of space to work with you need to make it look bigger.

There are a bunch of low light plants you could get and try out, what I did when I was starting out here on TPT, I found one of the members with a huge sales thread with lots of scientific names of plants and started google searching away, then I came up with a list of things I liked and looked around for those.

As a low light tank you are not going to need much fertilizer, if you wanted to invest into some dry fertilizers they would last you a very long time. I have seen people have good results with store bought fertilizers like Seachem in low-tech setups, but in the long run, money wise, you are better off buying your dry fertilizers and making the solution yourself, Zorfox has an awesome post on how to make DIY solutions of different strengths. You could even try out some root tabs, the best ones in the hobby seem to be Oscomote+ root tab, you can get there here on TPT, best price I have seen is around $6 for 100. Plants will always get great benefits from co2, or a carbon source, and can be a great addition to your fertilizers. If you don't want to invest in a injected co2 system, you could try DIY or you could dose Excel. There is another chemical, can't remember its name, that is basically excel just a little strong and its supposed to be way cheaper, this may be an option for you if you are not wanting to go with injected co2 but don't mine $20 on an alternative carbon source.
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First Time Post! What do you think of my tank?

Huh I was thinking with the light rated for a 5-10 gallon tank it would at least be considered a medium light on a 3 gallon tank...


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Nice tank. Does your betta bother your otto?

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I was thinking with the light rated for a 5-10 gallon tank it would at least be considered a medium light on a 3 gallon tank.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.
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First Time Post! What do you think of my tank?

No he's very interested in the Otto but so far hasn't touched him. Giving him plenty of pellets to keep him full just in case.

So only low light plants? No mediums?


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Yah, stick to low light plants. Also, that anubias, don't let the rhizome be under the substrate, otherwise it will rot and the plant will die.

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Yah, stick to low light plants. Also, that anubias, don't let the rhizome be under the substrate, otherwise it will rot and the plant will die.
Same with the java fern. The rhizome must be exposed.

I disagree with the others. I think a 7W LED with good spread is more than enough for a 3 gallon tank. I don't think you'll be too limited in what you can grow.

Check out marisela minuta. That and a couple of crypts (maybe wendtii) would look great in your minimalist setup.

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Thank you very much for the recommendations! My local aquatic shop gets a shipment tomorrow so I will update in 2 days.


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i like it so far, maybe check out some Crypt Undulata, or Wendtii Red.

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Just picked up a lotus bulb, cript, and an unknown long thin plant in the back right, and 3 snails. Planning to dose excel every other day and flourish and iron twice a week.


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That unknown long plant looks like crypt balansae.
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The anubious is growing much faster than described with an amazing root system and the java fern has turned kinda white and the roots have totally all fallen off (so tied it to the wood). The aquatic store guys think the light is too strong for the java fern and burned it. I looked the light up and couldn't find and PAR information but did find that it is rated for 321lumens. On a 3.5 gallon tank they advised it's between medium and high light.


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Cryptocoryne Petchii may be a better plant for a tank that small. I have them in a 10g which is also hard to find plants for that don't look too big in there.

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Why the upgrade to the heater? that thing could heat a house.
Also that otto will go insane, they like a group, plus the tank is about 12 gallons too small.
Those fluval lights are capable of growing a lot of low to high light plants. My LFS has one over a 5 gallon cherry shrimp display tank growing hair grass and moss galore.
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