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Small snails taking over tank

Has anyone tried using Had-A-Smail product to get rid of the snails.
If so, what doses?
Also, Potassium Permanganate: doses?

Have a 125gal tank and every day I take out 15-30 snails. The population is growing!

My ank is planted and has a medium to heavy fish load.

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get something that will eat the snails. like a puffer.
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Products like Had-A-Snail most likely contain copper to kill off invertebrates like snails, but copper will most likely melt some plants that you have as well. You may want to rethink about adding such a product to a planted tank to kill off snails. Removing them manually is probably the best way, even if it is a hassle.

As for using potassium permanganate, you cannot dose this directly into an aquarium. You can use it for dips for new plants, though.

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HadASnail is nasty stuff- IMO it should be called "had a fish"

In a 125 you've got some room for loaches, that would be my recommendation to keep the snail population under control. I tried to put MTS in my 90gal but I don't think any of them survived past 2 weeks with my clown loaches!





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Products like Had-A-Snail most likely contain copper to kill off invertebrates like snails, but copper will most likely melt some plants that you have as well. You may want to rethink about adding such a product to a planted tank to kill off snails. Removing them manually is probably the best way, even if it is a hassle.

As for using potassium permanganate, you cannot dose this directly into an aquarium. You can use it for dips for new plants, though.
Had a snail is harmless to plants if you use it as directed. Says right on the packaging.
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HadASnail is nasty stuff- IMO it should be called "had a fish"

In a 125 you've got some room for loaches, that would be my recommendation to keep the snail population under control. I tried to put MTS in my 90gal but I don't think any of them survived past 2 weeks with my clown loaches!
So you most likely didnt follow directions and left the dead snails in the tank if it killed your fish. Says right on the package to watch ammonia levels due to snail die off.
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Get some loaches, they will take care of the snail issue in no time at all and they are pretty cool fish to have in a tank.

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Thanks much for the replies.

I wouldn't mind clown loaches but, I have rainbows, angelfish,corydoras, cardinal tetras, plecos and I think i read somewhere that when the snails run out the loaches can run amock with the plants and other fish.

Anyone have clown loaches in similar tank: 125 gal, plants and fish ?

I would be next to impossible to get the loaches out of the tank, I think.
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Had a snail is harmless to plants if you use it as directed. Says right on the packaging.
Even when added as directed, some plants are very sensitive to copper. I had a tank full of cabomba a while back, dosed as directed, and every stem melted, leaving a huge mess.

Personally I smush mine against the glass when I see them, and the fish will readily eat them then. After a while, they will gang up on the smaller snails and eat them, keeping the numbers reasonable. Killer endler's livebearers are a force to be reckoned with!


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LOL "says so right on the packaging" unfortunately means nothing.





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LOL "says so right on the packaging" unfortunately means nothing.
I will call the VP of the company tomorrow and ask him if there is any copper in had a snail. I am almost positive there is non. I have been known to be wrong though.
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I will call the VP of the company tomorrow and ask him if there is any copper in had a snail. I am almost positive there is non. I have been known to be wrong though.
The MSDS says it has copper sulfate in it.
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i have the same problem. they came in off the plants. i manually remove them but you should check out yo-yo loaches. they are great. plus you can hear them eating them late at night.
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This might seem a little unorthodox, but you can mix water with bleach; 95% water and 5% bleach, and put any plants that the snails have taken over into the mixture. Then, rinse off the plant and put it back in the tank. It will kill the snails, but not the plants.
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The MSDS says it has copper sulfate in it.
The formula was change about a year ago. I have not looked at it since then. Yes you are right. It does have copper in it and a few different forms at that.
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