i cant be on the internet all the time and i like to read so are there any good detailed books on planted tanks that talk about specific aspects like ferts co2...

Look up "Aquarium Plants: The Practical Guide" by Teapoot. It's my favorite, and I've read dozens. The Simple Guide to Planted Aquariums is a close 2nd.

do they talk a lot about co2 and ferts??

Yes. The Simple Guide is more of a technical book, but A Practical Guide shows 50 or so plants kept outdoors for 120 days, then the same plant kept 30 to 90 days under ideal conditions. The growth difference after put into an aquarium is astounding.

k thanks

nature aquarium world is great for aquascaping ideas and insperation (and to drool over tanks way better then any humanely possible). vol 1 is medium size tanks, vol. 2 is smaller tanks, vol. 3 is big tanks (i think, i only have 1 and 2)

thanks i'll look for those

Here's a list of various planted aquarium books that I put together about a year ago.

Aquarium Plant Books

All these books are very good. I have all of these except the one by Pabloo Teapoot plus many more. I listed these in order starting with the best (IMO) and working down. You can usually find most of these books cheaper at Big Al's, but it will pay to shop around at different places:
Big Al's - http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS...wType=Category
FishBookStore.com has a large selection too. http://fishbookstore.com/

I hope this helps you.

Aquarium Plants (Hardcover) by Christel Kasselmann (Author), Ulf Kotlenga (Translator)
http://www.amazon.com/Aquarium-Plant...6315280&sr=1-2

Ecology of the Planted Aquarium: A Practical Manual and Scientific Treatise for the Home Aquarist (Hardcover) by Diana L. Walstad (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Ecology-Plante.../dp/0967377307

Tropica Aquarium Plants Catalogue, Expanded Second Edition (Spiral-bound) by Holger Windelov (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Aquarium-Plant...315984&sr=1-26

Aquarium Plants: The Practical Guide (Hardcover)
by Pabloo Tepoot (Author), Ian Tepoot (Editor), Judy Leiby (Illustrator)
http://www.amazon.com/Aquarium-Plant...6315280&sr=1-8

Planted Aquariums: Creation and Maintenance (Hardcover)
by Christel Kasselmann (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Planted-Aquari...6679817&sr=1-5

Encyclopedia of Aquarium Plants (Hardcover) by Peter Hiscock (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-A...6315280&sr=1-1

Aquarium Plant Paradise (Hardcover) by Takashi Amano (Author)
This is a very good book that has a lot of "how to" info.
http://www.amazon.com/Aquarium-Plant...315280&sr=1-12

Nature Aquarium World Volume 1 (Natural Aquarium World) (Hardcover) by Takashi Amano
{Strangely, this one isn't listed on the USA site. It's on the UK site though.}
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nature-Aquar.../dp/0793800897

Nature Aquarium World Volume 2 (Hardcover) by Takashi Amano (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Nature-Aquariu...315280&sr=1-16

Nature Aquarium World: Book 3 (Hardcover) by Takashi Amano (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Nature-Aquariu...315280&sr=1-18

A Barry James book was my first plant book. It's little but it sure helped me to get started.
A Fishkeeper's Guide to Aquarium Plants: A Superbly Illustrated Guide to Growing Healthy Aquarium Plants, Featuring over 60 Species (Hardcover) by Barry James (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Fishkeepers-Gu...6324425&sr=1-1

There's many small paperback books published by Barron’s that have good info and they are fairly cheap.

Aquarium Plants Manual by Ines Scherumann: http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS...umplantsmanual

Plants for Your Aquarium by Wolfgang Gula: http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS...oryouraquarium

I saw this one listed at the AGA site but I haven't looked at it. It looks good.
The Aquarium Plant Handbook
New from Oriental Aquarium, this 185-page full color book is more than double the size of Oriental's two previous "catalog" books, features new photographs and text descriptions of most aquarium plants, and an introduction by Takashi Amano. A great value for a reference book!
$25 (AGA members)
$30 (non-members)
http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org/bookstore.html

The Simple Guide to Planted Aquariums (Simple Guide to...) (Paperback) by Terry Ann Barber and Rhonda Wilson
http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Guide-P...1398471&sr=1-1

The Natural Aquarium: How to Imitate Nature in Your Home (Hardcover) by S. Yoshino
http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS...aturalaquarium

Barron’s Aquarium Designs Inspired by Nature by Peter Hiscock
http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS...spiredbynature

The Book of Water Plants
http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS...kofwaterplants

wow thank you very much
i'll give you rep for that
wold they sell these at a B&N

You're very welcome.

Some are available at B and N.