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Starting a 55g tank that will be planted heavy.. have questions

Hello Community,

Im starting a 55gal tank that will end up being heavily planted and have HO lighting.

Obviously compressed CO2 will be installed with wet/dry sump filtration and UV. Will also be using a dry mix fertilizer to dose water column.

My question is what is the absolute BEST substrate for optimal plant growth?

Will 6700k & 10k lighting be sufficient in terms of temperature?

I want to do this right from the beginning.

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How many bulbs ?
Substrate with high CEC is permanent.
Some type of dirt would give optimum ferts...but is not permanent.
It's a week day and people are at work...you will get more answers after 5PM.
90 odd percent of the same results can be had by placing good quality root tabs in
High CEC substrate as the dirt which eventually will need that anyway.
If I had four bulbs, I would use two of True Lumen "Flora" T5HO. The picture looks red
or pink but the light is white @ 6700K. Amazingly natural color also.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...3&pcatid=13823
Then one bulb would be this one. Placed in the middle.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...4&pcatid=21444
And the other would be either of these.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...8&pcatid=23648
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...6&pcatid=13826

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How many bulbs ?
Substrate with high CEC is permanent.
Some type of dirt would give optimum ferts...but is not permanent.
It's a week day and people are at work...you will get more answers after 5PM.
90 odd percent of the same results can be had by placing good quality root tabs in
High CEC substrate as the dirt which eventually will need that anyway.
If I had four bulbs, I would use two of True Lumen "Flora" T5HO. The picture looks red
or pink but the light is white @ 6700K. Amazingly natural color also.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...3&pcatid=13823
Then one bulb would be this one. Placed in the middle.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...4&pcatid=21444
And the other would be either of these.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...8&pcatid=23648
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...6&pcatid=13826

Yeah I'm at work too .. sorry i should have considered that.

IS there a specific brand of CEC substrate that you would recommend?

I'm going to be using HO LED 6700k with 10k for color as discus and rams will be the fauna in this tank eventually.

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In the substrate section there is a thread on Activ Flora which I never tried yet.
In that thread it says better than Eco Complete but looks very similar
Actually I've been playing around trying to find it on internet all morning but not getting
very far yet at any good price. But my computer has issues so won't go to that third screen. Site/product type, but not the detail screen of a product..go figure.
They all have their little issues/w them so which issue/color do you want s what
you get to consider.
Certain brands of floor dry are used if you like a lighter color and cheap.
I have the Eco Complete in one tank. Black/w no real complaints but the plant roots
get started easilly but seem not to be able to grow as well as other subs I've used.
But then I have only plants in there that don't have much in the way of roots anyway.
Do have one Crypt in there but have not moved it to know how good the roots are.
Have Flourite in the other tank and it seems good, comes in a few colors red/black
and a lighter black so called natural. The grains on this are a bit large making putting in a plant a tad harder than in plain gravel(which has no CEC value).
I think that between the Eco and the Flourite they are likely most popular but are more expensive than the Floor dry type.
I'm sure a few others will chime in/w the names of their favorite kind.
The green(or any color) plants gook good/w black sub and my RCS show up against it well also. Does make the tank a bit darker. I'm doing another 10g to replace one of the ones I now have and can't decide between the Activ Flora or the Floor Dry.
I think the one at Tractor Supply is called Tuffix(floor dry). They also have a black sand I think it's called Black Beauty but I don't know if it has a CEC value.

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Eco Complete

People love the ADA amazonia brand if your willing to spend $70 or per 20 lbs, I believe this brand will lower your PH if that is something you desire. ADA does have other options, amazonia II is the favorite from what I can tell.

http://www.adana-usa.com/index.php?m...ad5c1ed747646e

I personally am using a mixture of Flourite and Eco-complete, these are budget options, these will not lower your PH. Carib Sea Eco complete is super cheap on Amazon.com $23 per 20lbs right now. It literally went down $15 the day after I made my purchase. These are working well for me I am also dosing with seachem flourish, excel and tabs.

http://www.amazon.com/CaribSea-Eco-Complete-20-Pound-Planted-Aquarium/dp/B0002DH0QM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1400712863&sr=8-1&keywords=eco+complete

And yes 6700K and above will work just fine for planted tanks.

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