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Filterless Tanks

Hi, I'm trying to start a filterless aquarium. Even though I may include some real plants (if something really works for you, please tell me!), but mostly I'll include artificial plants. Is it possible to have a filterless tank with artificial plants?


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Welcome to the forum!!!

We like real plants here, it's kind of an obsession with a lot of us. Fake plants don't do much for the tank, rather inert really.

If you'd like to keep real fish, I'd put some kind of filtration on the tank, whether it be a cheap hang on back filter, or a sponge filter. If you grow some really easy plants (there is a great sticky in the low tech forum on low light plants) they can help with keeping nitrates low, but circulation in the tank is very important for several reasons.

Artificial fish are less demanding.


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For many years I've kept filterless tanks. No circulation what so ever.

Those where my natural planted tanks though. I had fast growing low maintiance plants and a bunch of them. It provied surface area and aborbed some of the waste.

Try some hydro green or mosses. They worked the best for me when I had those tanks.

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I have a 1 gallon filterless cube that is pretty much there to grow out smaller stems or a place I can toss stuff if I don't have room, haha. I've got two ghost shrimp in there and they take care of the little copepods that seem to like to make the place home.

I like the copepods, though, because all the ghost shrimp I have in there are pregnant, so I'm hoping they will suffice for food for the fry.
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I had fast growing low maintiance plants and a bunch of them. It provied surface area and aborbed some of the waste.

Try some hydro green or mosses. They worked the best for me when I had those tanks.
Can you further explain what provied surface area means doc ?

Also, "hydro green" isn't very descriptive. Something like hygrophila difformis would be a good candidate I'd say. Is that what you were shooting for?

Here is a forum area devoted entirely to natural planted tanks.


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Well I ment polysperma green.

As for surface area, I ment that the surface area the leaves provided. Especially the mosses. This is so that the surface area would allow the benifical bacteria to grow.

These are in my 10 gal tanks which had no problem for 9 years now. But I do plan to upgrade latter this year.

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Thanks

Yeah, thanks for the advice. You know, I really stink at keeping live plants alive. Nobody's worse than me. :P Absolutely no luck, but hey, the wind of change is blowing I'll definitely try these two plants out.


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Welcome to the forum!!!

We like real plants here, it's kind of an obsession with a lot of us. Fake plants don't do much for the tank, rather inert really.

If you'd like to keep real fish, I'd put some kind of filtration on the tank, whether it be a cheap hang on back filter, or a sponge filter. If you grow some really easy plants (there is a great sticky in the low tech forum on low light plants) they can help with keeping nitrates low, but circulation in the tank is very important for several reasons.

Artificial fish are less demanding.

no matter how enticing it is to pick up a 25 package deal on a 10 gallon and set up a filterless tank, i just can't do it. I agree with the above statement. mainly because(bear with me it is 4 am) when iwas a child i used to stay at my lake house. pretty much this was a stagnant lake. it used to be fed by a bigger one but that stopped. there a few, mind you a few springs feeding it. as do many lakes. anyway, a stagnant water system is jsut nasty. there is muck and nasty junk everywhere. of course there was fish and the such, but there was also about 7 feet of muck on the bottom of the lake(scuba diving friend.) hence i wouldn't want to set up a stagnant water system. even though you have plants the water will will be nasty without at least water movement. there are many factors that go into a lake system. large ones are fed by runoff from mountains, etc, which is filtered along the way. they empty into other bodies of water such as oceans. stagnant water is jsut that stagnant water.

(its late im sorry) and no matter the challenge that it would pose to do it, i can't try it and would not recommend it. i appauld those who can, but when i checked out the "el natural" tanks, they were nasty. just dirty. water movement is a must. and soemthign that you will be happy for.

the cheap hang on back with just filter pad or floss would be perfect. you would be happier that you did it.
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Yeah... I think I'll start out with a filter first.... Maybe when I'm better I'll switch... But that'll be like a year or 2 later :P
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