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First foray into completely planted - input welcomed

I'm looking to transition my 29 gallon from shelldwellers to a fully planted tank based around rams. Looking for a relatively decent representation of the typical environment of the rams (but not a strict biotope). Presently I have minimal experience with plants but not too concerned about it.

Here's an outline of everything I plan to do, any input would be appreciated on what to modify...


Equipment:
  • Eheim 2213 Classic
  • Coralife Aqualight PC 1x65W 6700K
  • Visi-Therm Stealth 150W
  • Eco-Complete Substrate

Fish stocking:
  • Microgeophagus ramirezi (either 1 or 2 pairs depending on if the vegetation is dense enough, need further input as I've kept rams before but 2 pairs seems ambitious)
  • Cardinal tetras (approximately 12)
  • Bristlenose pleco (likely a pair or if not, just 1)

Plant stocking:
  • Anubias barteri v. Nana
  • Water sprite
  • Italian val
  • Amazon sword
  • Java fern
  • Sagittaria subulata
  • Dwarf baby tears

Fertilizers:
  • Seachem Flourish (once or twice a week?)
  • Seachem Flourish Excel (every day or every other day?)
  • Seachem Flourish Potassium (once or twice a week?)
  • Seachem Flourish Phosphorus (once or twice a week?)

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you might wan't to save some monvey by looking at dry fitz. Rex sells them and has some good info on them.

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Those seem viable, but not really interested as I'd prefer something that's easier to follow for the most part. Thanks though.
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Looks awesome. a couple comments:

- get 1 pair of rams, and if you want another cichlid with them, consider 1 or a pair of Thomasi or something similar.
- get only 1 BN plec. Even in very large, heavily planted tanks the weaker one will often get killed by the stronger one.
- your equipment looks good; don't bother with any carbon in the filter (not sure if you use any normally)
- wait a bit before dosing with ferts, otherwise algae will take over if the plants aren't established first. Make sure you start with some fast-growers like hygro to beat out the algae. If you're patient enough, wait a full month with plants-only before adding any fish (personally, I never am patient enough to do this, and always regret it!)

good luck!
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Oh, and stock some Ottos
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Thanks for your help.

How long should I wait after I plant before dosing ferts? I'm assuming it's not an exact science but a ballpark number would be great.
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Wait until you see a decent amount of new growth and are confident the plants are settled in, roots are established etc. Basically just give them time to get established.
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Wouldn't the plants become established sooner if dosing ferts?
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Wouldn't the plants become established sooner if dosing ferts?
not really, plants are slow to adapt to changing conditions and take a few days / a week or so to settle in, whereas algae can bloom almost instantly
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