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EcoComplete vs Flourite

I am new to planted tanks but have had many fish tanks and want to switch my gravel out. I have narrowed it down to eco complete and flourite. I just returned flora base b/c it says it needs to be replace every 12 mos or so although many say it can last longer.

I like the eco complete size and black color, but flourite looks more natural but looks bigger.

Which is best in the long run? flourite claims to retain nutrients in a well established tank. I have not seen the same claims of eco complete. I like that eco complete doesn't need to be washed but the washing isn't a big deal to me. Neither is the cloudiness that comes with flourite. I have a canister filter that i think can handle it.

I live in hawaii and not very many stores stock flourite but i have seen it but i have not seen eco complete in person (other than the cichlid black and white sand). So i would appreciate any feedback as i probably will have to order via internet and pay tons for shipping. So i want to make a good purchase....thanks for the info.
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I've mixed EcoComplete with the gravel when I converted a previously fish-only tank, and it worked out well for me. I have not used the Eco alone.

I recently took down a 29gal tank and moved the water/fish/plants/equipment into a 36 bow. I used black flourite in the new tank, I love it.

I have not used "regular" flourite, but the owner of my LFS showed me what happens if you don't rinse it real well - it looks like your fish are swimming in chocolate milk every time you disturb the substrate.

With the black flourite, I didn't need to rinse very much at all. I put it in the tank, filled the tank about 3/4 full and stirred up the substrate real well. Drain the water, repeat. Drain again and repeat again. (The Python is the greatest invention ever!) Fill the tank slowly and add plants/fish. I had hardly any clouding at all.

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Edit: I've only been doing the plant thing for a little over a year now. The EcoComplete/gravel tank is going strong. I did put a thin layer of laterite under my black flourite, figured it couldn't hurt.

I've wondered as well how long a substrate will last.
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^ sounds like a good Idea, I'll have to try it out once I get my 75G
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i have done both flourite and eco and by far the eco is better imo. The tank was not cloudy at all with the eco and the flourite took forever to get clear. also on the flourite when you disturb the substrate it clouds the tank up too. I have yet to have that problem with the eco. also if you go through drs fosters and smith it may not be that bad on shipping (dont know about to hawaii)I paid 16.99 in shipping charges for 10 bags
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I use eco and I have had no problems with it. Even when your planting it doesnt cause a dust cloud that takes days to clear up.

Whats this green fuzzy stuff thats growing in my tank.
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One advantage that Flourite probably has is that I don't think it can scratch glass like Eco can. I once made the mistake of getting a little in between the glass scrubber and the glass and a couple of seconds later I have two big gouges in the glass.

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Does flourite or ecocomplete degrade or turn to mud?
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EC doesn't turn to mud. It's black rocks of various sizes.


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I've used both successfully. Cloudiness with the flourite is the only major drawback between the two. So I'd say choose which one you'd like over color difference.

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I found out i don't think i can get ecocomplete due to the bacteria and import laws here. Does ADA turn to mud also?
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ADA clouds the tank for a very long time when you disturb it. Ammonia levels also shoot up once you put it in.

I'm using Flourite right now, and rinsing is a pain....I rinsed half of the bag for 20 minutes and it was still cloudy when I put it in the tank. But I love the natural color

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settled on flourite and was very impressed with how it worked..not as scary as people say...regardless of how you wash it...just run a siphon and hose at the same time and basically do a water exchange until the water comes clear.

BTW I confirmed that we can't get ecocomplete for plants in Hawaii due to import restrictions on the bacteria, but i did see the eco complete for cichlids w/bacteria in Kalihi Pet....must be diff bacteria *shrug*
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I seen some time ago some pure black sand from one of the beaches there in HI. Now I don't believe it was just sand, probably came from volcanic activity. I bet that would look amazing. Beautiful black in color and the size was real even to. If I had some near me I would for sure give it a try. I've never seen anything like it.

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I know it still falls short but black colorquartz is probably the closest stuff we've got readily available stateside? 3M.com



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