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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 01-29-2008, 06:30 PM Thread Starter
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Best combo of algae eaters?

I have a 46 gal bowfront that will soon be heavily planted. I wanted some suggestions on what is good assortment of algae eaters for my tank.

Siamese Algae Eaters, Types of Shrimp, Snails, etc.

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Cherry shrimp, Amano shrimp, and Otocinclus would be a good combo to get the tank off to a good clean start. I start up all my tanks with Cherries, their population explodes in a few weeks and they do a good job to keep things clean. Later on when you add predatory fish they might finish up the Cherries, but by then the tank could be stabilized enough to stay pretty much algae free.


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I agree on the cherry, amano, oto combo. They're all diligent workers and the cherries reproduce quickly creating a larger clean up crew. The amanos and otos will supplement by eating other types of algae that the cherries won't. All in all, the best bang for the buck. In addition, I find they don't leave as much of a mess as snails.
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What are your show fish? You need to make sure that your algae eaters don't get eaten

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Dont have any fish yet. I have been growing HC emerssed for 1 month and going to put water in this weekend. I waanted to get some endlers, some galaxies if i can find them, maybe some cardinal tetras,bolivian Ram or GB Ram too

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starting out with amanos is your best bet to control the initial algae. Depending on what type of fish you have in y our tank will decide what your algae crew should look like. You will definatley want ottos and nerite snails. The combo that I have been using for a while now is amanos, nerites, ottos, and briggs in my low tech. The briggs might munch on the softer leaf plants such as green hygro if they are real hungry. This is a good combo. The important part of starting your tank is doing it right right from the start. So overstocking amanos and starving them could prevent a few different types of algae from even becoming noticable. The nerites will keep GSA at bay and eat all the initial diatom algae. Hope this helps

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I'd be careful with shrimp, then. Celestial pearl danios (galaxy rasboras) like to eat shrimp, and so do rams. Amanos might be able to get by a little easier than cherries.

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SAE are awesome. buy them as young as you can. while they are small they eat algae constantly. as they get older their appetite will shrink but their personality grows. i bought SAE to help with algae, but they ended up my favorite fish. SAE eat beard, hair, thread, staghorn, and occasionally black beard algae. hair algae is their favorite.

i also recomend shrimp. they are great eaters of algae.

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SAE are awesome. buy them as young as you can. while they are small they eat algae constantly. as they get older their appetite will shrink but their personality grows. i bought SAE to help with algae, but they ended up my favorite fish. SAE eat beard, hair, thread, staghorn, and occasionally black beard algae. hair algae is their favorite.

i also recomend shrimp. they are great eaters of algae.
wow, i've never seen anyone who actually likes sae before. everyone i know hates them (myself included). i've never had any myself, but we have them where i work and they are nasty. they kept slipping through the divider into the next tank and killing our dwarf gouramis. about six died and the rest looked horrible (they turned grey and had holes in their heads where the sae attacked them). finally i got my manager to let me switch them with the pepperd corries (the corries had been next to the golden sae, i figured sae can't hurt sae and cories won't hurt gourami). now the dwarfs are recovered, but my point is: nasty fish. i've even seen them attack very large golfish (and the sae was tiny! under 2").

you could try sae if you want but be aware that they will attack other fish so don't keep them with anything that isn't fast enough to escape.
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holy geez, violent fish! I have an SAE, and its no fluke that its in my pic...I love him/her... it likes to "sit" on its fins, and sort or hop, or almost walk around as if it were becoming amphibious or something, really funny to watch, and great with algae...he himself, fully matured cleaned up a fair sized log covered in BBA in 3 days...and hes not at all violent...I had a Chinese algae eater on the other hand that killed 4 fish..maybe you have a CAE?

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not a sae those were flying foxes. there is little difference in appereance. the flying fox have straight edges on the black stripes and saes are zig-zagy. the flying fox may also have a golden stripe above the black stripe. sae are kind fish that onlyget grumpy if hungry and then they only attack fish that eats the same food, my larger sae does this daily and no fish was ever harmed and sizes of the others range from 1" to 3" where as the sae is 4.5"

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hmm, i'm pretty sure they are labeled siamese algae eaters, but it wouldn't be the first time something was mislabeled in that store. i don't think they were flying foxes either, no stripes. chinese algae eaters probably? sorry if i gave your nice fish a bad rap with my horror story. whatever they are i don't like them :P and they don't like me, lol.
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i think posting pics of the SAE look-alikes will help, escpecially if BrettNYC chooses to buy one; since they are very often mislabled.

here is a true SAE:


here is a flying fox:


here is a chinese algae eater:




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These are pics of my SAE and my Flying Fox, respectively..they have a love/hate relationship, lol....

They sure don't seem to know they are different types of fish. They interact almost constantly. The SAE is much busier with eating algae than the Flying Fox, too.




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Dont have any fish yet. I have been growing HC emerssed for 1 month and going to put water in this weekend. I waanted to get some endlers, some galaxies if i can find them, maybe some cardinal tetras,bolivian Ram or GB Ram too
Correct me if im wrong, but in my experience shrimp will die in a tank with temperatures close to 78-80, they turn pink and die and they look like you cooked them. so if you want rams, I would go with something besides shrimp, b/c rams like water in the mid to high 80's....I personally like siamese algae eaters, and otos. they seem to work well, and maybe a brushy nosed pleco...they stay small and eat all the decays plant matter But everytime I have gotten shrimp, they have turned pink within a few hours of being in the tank, and they honestly look like they were slowly cooked, shrimp like cold water aparently

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