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Advice needed with stocking / shrimp / colony size

New to the hobby this will be first tank. I am slowly gathering everything I need and will be setting up in the next little bit.

tank size = 75g
lighting = finnex planted plus
filter = eheim pro 3 2075
heater = eheim jager (not sure of size yet, probably 300W+)
substrate = MG organic with some sort of topper

Tank will be fully aquascaped and and heavily planted. I am not planning on running c02.



Once up and running I would like to start the tank with cardinal tetras (a large school, unsure of number) I also plan to keep oto catfish (probably 6-10, I am aware they like to be in schools) I also would love to establish a colony of red cherry shrimp. Showcase / centerpiece fish I plan / want to keep would be Cichlid rams (prolly 4?! 2 males / 2 females) and darf gourami (4, 1 male and 3 females to avoid bullying)

I am aware the larger centerpiece fish will likely eat the shrimp. But I am wondering if I get enough shrimp and with breeding they might be able to sustain their numbers? I will have lots on cover and such.


Is my stocking list / idea sound like it can be accomplished?

If you were to add to this, what fish would you choose and why?

Will the oto's and shrimp fight for food?

Thanks in advanced,

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i'd have some kind of corydoras, but i'm only saying that bc they're so cute !
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another bottom dweller? I would rather fill all levels of the tank.
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Shrimp and Otto are perfect tankmates for each other!

Not so much so for the shrimp and the rest of your list I've got shrimp with cacatuoides and I only ever see them at night or sticking out of a very happy fish' mouth.

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i understand that they will be eaten ( at least some of them) my idea is to have a big enough population that they can reproduce and grow and keep numbers even with the 2 rams and 4 dg's eating them on occasion.

again i will have a very intense aquascape with lots of shelter and hiding holds.
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i understand that they will be eaten ( at least some of them) my idea is to have a big enough population that they can reproduce and grow and keep numbers even with the 2 rams and 4 dg's eating them on occasion.

again i will have a very intense aquascape with lots of shelter and hiding holds.
If a fish is big enough to eat shrimp and get a taste for them, they will continue to eat shrimp even when full. The shrimp will reproduce slower if at all from stress. You may lose some shrimp to stress. Its hard to say how many shrimp it would take to keep your shrimp population even. I'm going to say 700 for fun.
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damn.
I don't think any kind of Dam can help you with your situation, not even the Grand Coulee Dam
Seriously though I'd stock shrimp a couple months before anything else (you could stock ottos right away with the shrimp but nothing that will eat them) so they get a sizable colony going before they start getting eaten it's just hard because you say you're gonna have
4 Rams who eat tons of shrimp, 4 Gouramis who will also eat them, and a large school of Cardinals who will eat shrimp until their bellies burst once they figure out shrimp are an easy tasty treat.
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