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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 02-28-2014, 10:14 PM Thread Starter
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Dying plants, any advice?

All my plants are dying, the first wave of plants already died using 2 T8 ultra sun lights. Replaced the lighting with a finnex ray 2 and the second set of plants are dying as well. Wisteria, dwarf baby tears etc.. I added a fugeray planted plus 4 days ago but does not seem to be helping, or maybe it's too soon to tell. The only thing I can think of contributing to this might be the tannins from the driftwood. I added a purigen bag today to aid in clearing the water. I also started using excel about 2 weeks back but to no effect. Does anyone know what I might be doing wrong?

I have a 55g (48x12x21) tank with ADA power sand, ADA new amazonia, bacter 100, clear super, CO2 with a aquatek soleniod (20 lb tank), 48" finnex 2, finnex 48" fugeray planted plus, penguin 350 bio wheel with 2 200 watt aqueon heaters maintaining the temp @ 78 degrees. (newly set up tank)
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Are you dosing any ferts?
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just liquid flourish and even that is not required. the ada soil has all the nutrients according to the package and does not mention to add anything else to the substrate.

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Could you give us the values in your tank water of pH, NO3, and GH?

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Nitrate <20
Nitrite 0
Hardness (GH) 0
Chlorine 0
KH 120-180
pH 6.8-7.2
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Add some equilibrium. 50ppm min for gh.
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Did you buy emersed plants? When you first put them in the tank their emersed leaves will die but then submersed leaves will start to grow in. Also your GH is too low, do you use RO water?
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How about some close up (in focus) photos of the plant issues. Without photos all advice is basically shooting in the dark.

What is your ammonia reading? Sometimes aquasoil will release a lot of it which can harm plants.
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They were all emersed plants and sorry I can't post pics at this time... I might be able to later on
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I think it might be the tannins blocking the lights... the tannins were so bad the whole tank was black when the lights were off... I was finally able to do a water change and the lighting looks a lot better... still not where it needs to be, but hopefully another water change in a couple of weeks might solve the issue.

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I'll wait for the pictures when you can get them up. There are a lot of possibilities and many issues look the same while having very different root causes.
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Yeah, you know what they say about pictures. One thing you can do now is that water change, 50%, adding Equilibrium as directed on the bottle. I also think it's a good idea to remove any dead leaves.

The GH contributes dissolved nutrients that plants need. Also, you haven't described the symptoms. In addition, someone more knowledgeable than I about LED lighting hopefully could comment on whether the lighting is a perfect match for what's needed.

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Be sure to take pics of the old leaves first because they are the ones that will tell us what is wrong with the plants. So don't remove them just yet!
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Hard to make out what is going on in a lot of the photos, but the last two photos look like the plants don't have enough light. The entire plant is starting to die and decay. Do you have the lights resting on the surface of the tank or are they elevated a few inches?

Any way you can add both the old T8s and the LED lighting you have at the same time?
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