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Name Brand PC Bulbs v. No Name Brands

I just ordered some 10K No Name PCs bulbs.

I think they are JUS or something?

I saved about $20 v. Names like Sunpaq, Phillips etc.

My question is:

How do the no name brands stand up against name brands???
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you can find out for us. have you ever ran a name brand bulb in the system you just bought the no name for?


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you can find out for us. have you ever ran a name brand bulb in the system you just bought the no name for?
No.

It is practically impossible for me to check wavelength and plant growth has way too many variables.

I was also thinking about glass thickness, connector quality, lumens, longetivity etc.
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from my own real world experience, Chinese unknown name brand bulbs should be avoided, or should only be purchased from a reseller who will replace them should they fail very prematurely. No name bulbs lack the quality control scrutiny that name brand bulbs get even when both are made in China. so instead of getting a name brand bulb that dims after a year, and dies after two, you get a Chinese bulb that dims after a 2 Months, and dies in 6.

It's shameful how many great bulb makers had to close shop or move overseas despite the dollar losing a third of it's value since Bush'43 took office.
http://www.customsealife.com/


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I already ordered them from hellolights.

The brand is TRU
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I'm sure the no names are not as good.
I bought four 65W 6500k from ebay for $20.
2 went out after 4 months.
However, with them being so cheap I think you still come out ahead, even if you have to replace 4 every 6 months.
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It's hit or miss. The no name bulbs that came with a Jebo Light fixture I gutted have actually been pretty nice. On the other hand, I've had CustomSeaLife bulbs pull right out of their bases in the first month.

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I have had a couple coralife bulbs blow after a few months use, how much worse can you get than that?
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I have had a couple coralife bulbs blow after a few months use, how much worse can you get than that?
if you have the proof of purchase,
they might replace them for you.
my coralife bulbs are still going
strong after nearly a year of use.

my 8800k CustomSeaLife are also
burning fine after a year, but I can
understand how quality can vary
from bulb to bulb.

so the bottom line is to use a vendor or manufacturer
who will REPLACE bulbs if they are unreasonably faulty,
and you can't really do that with Chinese no name bulbs
on ebaY or some Yahoo virtual store web sight.


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I used a 65W Coralife for more than 1.5yrs and it would not burn out.

I recently bought 2 Jebo light fixtures and replaced the bulbs with Sealife bulbs. These are both relatively low end products but I did not care since the tank was not my show tank. 2 months later, the ballast in the Jebo light fixture burned out. Both of the Sealife bulbs burned out as well.

I think there is a high risk in no name brands. I will probably not try it again, I learned my lesson. It may work out for you but I would not take the risk. Some bulbs at ebay(96W for example) sell for $8-$10, other respectable bulbs sell for $40 online, $60 at your LFS. When there is such a price difference, it is always suspicious to me.
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I've ordered from hello lights before and those lights worked fine for me. But I always assumed that you changed the bulbs out after 6-9 months because they start to shift in spectrum.

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you get what you pay for. The connectors are probably going to be a lot cheaper/easier to break/rust. Electricians grease is a must!!!!
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I'll see when they get here.

I actually "saved" about $35 compared to the Coralifes at the LFS.

And I thought going planted was going to be alot cheaper than my old reef setups...
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ralph, the consensus is that high tech planted is primary cheaper than marine reefs not in equipment costs, but rather that living specimens are cheaper, and how tank disasters in a planted tank are far easier and cheaper to recover from than in a fragile marine ecosystem.


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ralph, the consensus is that high tech planted is primary cheaper than marine reefs not in equipment costs, but rather that living specimens are cheaper, and how tank disasters in a planted tank are far easier and cheaper to recover from than in a fragile marine tank ecosystem.
Yes they are indeed.

I lived two miles form the ocean and used to harvest my own live rock while beach diving.

After the ban on harvesting live rock and coral from FL waters the price of coral skyrocketed.

They sell live rock form Fiji but I assure you that someone is poaching it form local waters.
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