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im in the process of cycling my 29g sw tank for a month a half now I still keep getting the same readings nitrite and nitrates are through the roof amonia is at .25 I test every week and its reading the same for 3 weeks now. im running a gutted aquaclear 30 with seagel with livesand and baserock. I started with ghost feeding, then threw in a chunk of tilapia, amonia still hasnt moved. Should I start with amonia next?
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Do you still have the ammonia source in the tank? I have used shrimp in the past but only left it in the tank long enough to create the spike. I would think if nitrates were off the charts the other readings should be more in line.

Just be patient SW cycles can be frustrating. I have cycled tanks in 1 week and waited more than 8 weeks on others.

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yea the tilapia is still in there
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I would remove it. Most likely it is just producing ammonia faster than the bacteria that have started can consume it. Continue to test ammonia and as that reaches zero nitrites will soon follow. Depending on the nitrate level after the cycle you may want to do a water change to bring them down right before you add your first fish. And when I say fish I mean one fish. Dont add multiple fish to a newly established tank.
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ok if anything I might try:adding biospira if nothing changes at the end of:the week
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You have a piece of rotten flesh in there that's constantly putting out ammonia. That's why your Ammonia is not going down and nitrite and nitrate is through the roof. Your system can't process it.

Remove all of your ammonia source and stop ghost feeding. Let the Ammonia and Nitrite come down to zero and do a large water change to bring the nitrate down to under 40ppm for fish and 20ppm for coral.

It will take a lot longer for your Nitrate bacteria to catch up (they live deep down in your sandbed where there are little oxygen) so keep up the water change until your system stabilizes.


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a hand full of macro algae could help keep the parameters in check
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Du3ce,

take the fish out, you didn't need to do that. You could have cycled your tank without doing that in less time. You could have use sand from a established tank, some Mollies that love to eat and can live in saltwater. There's additives like Bio-Pronto from Two little fishes and Cycle from Nutrafin, that will help speed up the cycle. See if you can get either one of those.

In the meantime, take the fish out, do a water change and learn to be a little more patient. You'll lose less money by being patient.

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In the meantime, take the fish out, do a water change and learn to be a little more patient. You'll lose less money by being patient.

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This is the best advice you can give someone starting a tank whether it be freshwater or a reef. Patience is key to being successful in this hobby and like Rev said it will save you not only a headache but money.

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I did not put any fish in im not that mean, I have stopped ghost feeding ever since I threw that piece of fish in a week ago.
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test my water again this morning amonia at 0 nitrite 5.0 nitrate dropped down to 20
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I'll bet you'll see a rapid fall in nitrites and no ammonia. Now that you have removed the NH4 source bacteria will be able to process what's there quickly.
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hope so ill test it again at the end of the week
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im in the process of cycling my 29g sw tank for a month a half now I still keep getting the same readings nitrite and nitrates are through the roof amonia is at .25 I test every week and its reading the same for 3 weeks now. im running a gutted aquaclear 30 with seagel with livesand and baserock. I started with ghost feeding, then threw in a chunk of tilapia, amonia still hasnt moved. Should I start with amonia next?
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just tested my tank again today everything is still the same
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