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I have a 20g "long" that I'd like to try to get my pairs of Rosys to breed in. If I transfer some gravel from my existing tank into there, will the water be safe for them? I plan to use a sponge filter.

Both pairs of Rosys are ready to spawn, I believe. I just saw a mad swarm of all 4 rosys and a yoyo loach looking like they were eating some sort of fishy heavenly treat off of a piece of driftwood with windelov and fern attached. I pulled it out and didn't see anything, but I may have been too late. They were all pretty darn frantic. Eggs must taste good!

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you can you new gravel too if you want... Definitely use the partial water from the old tank and any old filter media.

caviar is quite good.


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If I plan on using a new, unused sponge filter, what can I do with old filter media? Just set it in the tank? I'll also be using some of the water from my tank as well as at least one or two wisteria stems. Maybe the piece of driftwood instead since they liked that the first time! Also, the adult fish will only be in there long enough to lay eggs. It's the babies I am most concerned about.

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See if you can cycle that sponge filter first - put it in your main tank for a week or so to get it started. Otherwise, yes, the gravel will help. Clumps of plants also help and make egg-scatterers feel more at home. You have any floaters?


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Bacteria-infested gravel is great, and a precycled filter is even better.
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Yeah, I had a stem of Anacharis come loose and was floating in my tank, so I stuck it in there. I could grab a few more out.

I will go get the sponge filter today and put it in my tank. I need to pick up a heater, too, before I do this.

I really don't want to rush, but I'm just so excited about getting started.

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I have an Emperor 400 HOB on my main tank, and I have another new XP3 sitting here. So I could use the HOB on the other tank. Would it be overkill for a 20g tank? Also, is pantyhose the best thing for the intake, to protect the fry?

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Nah, stick with your sponge filter. The fry like to pick off of it, and it isn't strong enough to suck them up. The extra aeration is also beneficial. Sponge filters are the way to go.

Java moss is also good for fry tanks - lots of little critters on moss for them to eat!


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Okay, well, I hooked the Emperor up, put enough substrate from my existing tank to plant 2 big stems of Wisteria, and used about 10 gallons of water from the same tank and the rest is fresh water.

I will go get sponge filters tomorrow, set one in there with the Emperor running?? Then remove the HOB after a few days and put Rosys in there?? Sound good????

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I would think a little longer than a few days. Keep the established HOB filter in the new tank with the new sponge filter running at the same time, for maybe a week or more. But, the extra gravel, plants, and aged water would cut this time down some. My opinion.

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will the water be safe for them? I plan to use a sponge filter.
the only way to know for sure is to buy ammonia and nitrite tests. Nitrate wouldn't hurt either, to be on the safe side.


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But will any of that even change if there's no fish in there?

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If you have no fish, or other source of ammonia, your bacteria colony will decrease in response. No food, less bugs.
IMO, put the sponge in the established tank, for as long as you can, then put it in the fry tank.

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I have used old media from a tank and just put it in a media bag (you can get them for a few bucks at most pet stores). Put it next to or under your sponge filter. Should be well seeded within a week or two. This works well for old filter media too....cuts down on the mess, and allows you to jump cycle and will solve the media/sponge filter issue.

Or you can just put it under the gravel.


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