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Hi all - starting to have a bit of a BBA issue. Just started pressurized CO2 and added intank UV and seems to holding steady. I have a pant load of BN plecos to help (plus they're cute!) but wanted to add snails. The issue is I have a pretty hold handful of assassin snails that have been in there awhile to help with a ton of little snails I got from the plants. I'm assuming they would target even large snails (and shrimp?) if I add them. Any trick other than trying to pick them out individually?

Other question - I put a cap and a half of excel in daily. I've seen some "spot treating" with excel and don't understand how that's done. Is the plant pulled out, sprayed, then put back in?

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From what I know, people put Excel in a syringe and inject it on the plant directly.

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From what I know, people put Excel in a syringe and inject it on the plant directly.
Yep. Stop the filters and let the water become still before squirting it on the BBA, else the Excel will too quickly get dispersed. Then turn filters back on a few minutes later.

Don't exceed the amount of Excel you'd normally add. This means you have a relatively small amount to work with. If you have a lot of BBA to spot treat, try diluting with up to twice the volume of water; this doesn't seem to decrease its effectiveness.

3% hydrogen peroxide also works as a BBA spot treatment, and as you can use more (up to 2 tbsp./30mL per 10G of tank water volume), it's more convenient if you have a lot to treat.

There are also methods where the plant is pulled out soaked (dips), or sprayed. Or sprayed during a water change when the algae is out of the water. Many variations on a theme.
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Ah ok cool, thanks!
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Hi all - starting to have a bit of a BBA issue. Just started pressurized CO2 and added intank UV and seems to holding steady. I have a pant load of BN plecos to help (plus they're cute!) but wanted to add snails. The issue is I have a pretty hold handful of assassin snails that have been in there awhile to help with a ton of little snails I got from the plants. I'm assuming they would target even large snails (and shrimp?) if I add them. Any trick other than trying to pick them out individually?

Other question - I put a cap and a half of excel in daily. I've seen some "spot treating" with excel and don't understand how that's done. Is the plant pulled out, sprayed, then put back in?

Thanks in advance.
The assassin snails will eat most snails. What type were you thinking? They will take shrimp however it is rare. I had one in a shrimp tank. The snails were gone so I think the snail was hungry but...



I would just pluck them out when you see them. Personally I like them. They are better than a lot of smaller snails.

BBA is the scourge of many tanks. The most important (the only one we know of in fact) is stable CO2 over 15 ppm or so. You may simply need a higher level. Keep raising it until you see signs of distress then back off. Go SLOWLY though. Likely to take a few weeks to get it dialed in.

If treating algae under water turn of filtration and inject the excel or peroxide directly onto the algae. Let it sit for 5-10 minutes and turn the filter back on. I prefer hydrogen peroxide myself. Cheaper and I can use more for spot treating.
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We do seem to think a like Darkcobra lol. I was writing my post when you posted. BTW I just read your post in the tank of the future. Replied on APC in the organics thread. Very nice!
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Youch! Was thinking of some amano shrimp, the LFS (my brother-in-law's brother) has some in stock. So just standard hydrogen peroxide (like from CVS) is safe for use with fish at the above listed amounts?
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Youch! Was thinking of some amano shrimp, the LFS (my brother-in-law's brother) has some in stock. So just standard hydrogen peroxide (like from CVS) is safe for use with fish at the above listed amounts?
Don't let that alarm you. Cherry shrimp are cheap lol. A hungry assassin and a plump shrimp? Never turns out well lol

Yes. The plain peroxide you get at Walmart, CVS or any corner store. Darkcobra has a thread here, The one two punch. Good information here regarding whole tank peroxide treatment. When you do the math you will see you can use far more peroxide than expensive Excel and it works better IMO.
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Great! Thanks again to you both.
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