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Im starting an emersed tank...?

This might b in the wrong section mods.. couldnt find a dedicated emersed location. . Anyways

Went to petco and grabbed a 10 gal for $10.. and cut some two liters. Put some dirt and layed the plants stems down on the soil... filled a few inches with water change water from a full ei tank.

Cover with seran wrap and added a 4x24watt t5ho setup I had from my old setup.. lights on 9am-9pm.


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Tank temp is hovering around 85f during photoperiod and 99% humidty until 2pm ish and drops to 90% by lights off.. is this ok??

And is there anything im missing?? Is it really that simple??



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Only plants I added were alternanthera reinecki and some sort of ludwigia so far..


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Yup, it's really that simple. That's a lot of light for an emersed set up, but if it's what you've got, it's great. Hahaha... Now you just need more plants!
A lot of people say to air it out daily. I've found that if I only loosely attach the plastic wrap it works well. My 55 emersed still has the same scrap piece of plastic wrap I started it with many months ago, which just kind of sits on top of the tank being held down by the light.

Something else to consider, especially with such high light levels, would be to chop up some moss and spread it on your substrate. It'll quickly convert to emersed and will help keep any sort of fungi from developing on the substrate. I recommend chopping the moss with scissors into small bits(~ .25") from my personal experiences. The moss seems to adapt and begin growing much quicker than if tossed on in whole pieces/strands.


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Most mosses you can throw into the blender with a little bit of buttermilk then just use the moss/milk smoothie you make to water the area you want covered and BAM! It will grow like a weed everywhere you poured it.
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Something else to consider, especially with such high light levels, would be to chop up some moss and spread it on your substrate. It'll quickly convert to emersed and will help keep any sort of fungi from developing on the substrate. I recommend chopping the moss with scissors into small bits(~ .25") from my personal experiences. The moss seems to adapt and begin growing much quicker than if tossed on in whole pieces/strands.
Yeah I can run only two bulbs, but I was hoping for faster growth.. I will get some moss and cover the substrate.

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Anybody got a guess on how long until I see any activity??? And im supposed to lay the stems on the dirt right??
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Were the plants already in their emersed state or had they previously been submerged? I'd probably guess anywhere from a few days up to a week, maybe two.


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I'm doing this right now too in a spare 50g tall. Kinda ghetto at the moment, but I run a heat lamp 24/7 over the tank to keep humidity up (wondering if I need it at all now), but I use my Satellite Freshwater LED+ so I really get no heat from that. I have a spare 5g tank in there right now to contribute to humidity that will soon be a waterfall/pond. I have anubias, crypts, hygro, and some petco dwarf hair grass at the moment and it's been about a week. I haven't seen growth yet. As for the stem plants, I planted the stems and rested the rest of the plant on a piece of driftwood till the stems adjust (thicken) to emersed growth. I've heard the moss trick too, as mold just started to appear in my tank, gonna give it a go as well. Can't wait to see some nice growth though. Good luck!

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Were the plants already in their emersed state or had they previously been submerged? I'd probably guess anywhere from a few days up to a week, maybe two.
They were from a submersed tank.

High co2 light and full ei.. dont know if that makes a difference.
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Plants are starting to grow.. now what??

First plant is alternanthera reinecki..spellcheck.. second is ludwigia repens I think..

Trim off the dead leaves or what or what do I do now?
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here is a picture of the emersed tub i started not too long ago. Should I be misting with RO, tank water or an enhanced nutrient? Im getting a few yellow leaves on my anubias.
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here is a picture of the emersed tub i started not too long ago. Should I be misting with RO, tank water or an enhanced nutrient? Im getting a few yellow leaves on my anubias.
Sound like a nutrient deficiency to me. I dont know much about emersed yet either..

I use my water change water from my display tank. Its full ei so I figure the water should b good to go as far as nutrients r concerned.. I would not use ro water.. at all... just my opinion.
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hmm using full ei water here too.. ive switched to using water with a little extra fertilizer in it we will see if it does better.
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why not use natural indirect sunlight and save some electricity?
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why not use natural indirect sunlight and save some electricity?

That's fairly common in a lot of places during the warmer months of the year.


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here is a picture of the emersed tub i started not too long ago. Should I be misting with RO, tank water or an enhanced nutrient? Im getting a few yellow leaves on my anubias.

I mist with water out if my tanks. My substrate mixture has O+ mixed in to supply nutrients to the plants.

Are your yellow leaves the new or old leaves? I find that my emersed Anubias leaves start out a brownish yellow before slowly changing to green as they age. Submersed they always seem to be more of a bright green when new. This is just my experience though...


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