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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 12-11-2013, 02:32 AM Thread Starter
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So I have an empty 46 gallon bow front and I think i am going to set it up into a low tech planted tank. Not really sure what where to start. For the substrate I was thinking Carib sea Eco complete. But I might try to cover it with something because I don't want the substrate to be black.
Filtration wise I'm debating of getting an eheim 2215 for 110 or just get 2 HOB penguins 40 each. I would like it to make it heavily planted so should I go with the canister or two HOB's? Also any recommendations with substrate, lighting, ect? I sure would like to here some input, thanks!
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I am very new to plants, so I can only say this. If you don't like the black eco complete, look into Flourite or virtually any other substrate with a high cec. Really I don't think they are even that great for the purpose, but they look good, are readily available, and common in the practice. I think that eco complete and even flourite don't really supply any nutrient traces worth mentioning and if they do, its gone in a few months anyway. What they do is absorb nutrients/cations very well. (cec). I'd look into a gravel or sand that I liked the color of, place root tabs in it, and not worry about using a substrate I don't like. (It could mix later). It is my understanding that pool filter sand is also a very good substrate due to its cec being far higher than eco complete etc. There is also mineralised top soil (very popular), ADA soil, UP substrate, etc.

I'd check out Build My Led, and Finnex for lighting options. These two companies seem to be heavily focused on the future of planted tank lighting, and loads of people on here are having great success with them. I'll be buying from one or the other (or both) soon myself.

I know that I've read numerous threads about users here with ehiems.. I'd go with it.. especially considering a hob will interfere with co2/o2 exchange on the water surface. Seek more advice, I'm a newbie.

You will find more reliable advice as more experienced hobbyists reply. That's just what I'd consider.

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I have an Eheim 2215 on my 46 with spray bar and I've also used the duck bill. I added a Koralia pump. I'm not sure of the power (ie. size) but it's pretty small. Smaller than a tennis ball, bigger than a ping pong ball. I point it across the front glass facing slightly downward and it all seems to be doing just fine. I light it with a 36" aquaticlife t5 fixture. It's low end and low light compared to many other t5 fixtures. I have dual 6500k plant bulbs in it. I also have floaters. I like the setup. I run pool filter sand and occationally stick in some osmocote tabs or seachem root tabs (I don't like the api ones, they break apart too easily) and toss in some flourish here and there. Like once a week. 1 ml Seems to keep everyone happy.

Here's a 2 week old picture. Since then the chain sword in the front has exploded. I think it found the root tab I put there a month ago..

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so you think I should go with the eheim 2215 rather than two large emperor HOB's?
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