Trying for a eco-friendly tank - 56k Warning - The Planted Tank Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-22-2007, 08:01 PM Thread Starter
Guest
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 43
Trying for a eco-friendly tank - 56k Warning

My goal in my FW tank is to have the least amount of chems as necessary and also the least amount of work as well. I want to give the fish as natural enviroment as possible.

So far so good.

Every thing I put into the tank I try and have it there for a purpose.

I don't put anything fake in it no fake plants, rocks ect.. Only natural. as my set up is that way as well.

So far Here is my set up

I do have a carbon filter though and a power head as to control the water and make it flow. Other than that the only chemical i put it in it declor.

I have hearty hard water, slow growing, non fish eating plants, (about 50) These take care of the fish poo and give oxygen for the water. I have live rock

Fish are the following

3 pletcos (all small)
1 Large common pletco
3 (Chinese algae eaters)
4 Green Tiger Barbs
4 Tiger Barbs
4 T-barbs-
4 Giant Danios
2 Red tail sharks (1 Small 1 Med)-
2 Convicts and 4 Pink
3 Blue channel cats
2 Picus cats
2 Jack Demsey

I want to add algae eating snails and shrimp.(anything else?)

Does any one have any other suggestions that i can to to futher enhance the ECO tank? Other fish or other stuff.

as you can see i have a semi aggressive

thanks

D.M.

IMAGES ADDED 6/23

Before 6/18



6/19 but before adding 40 more plants




Misc Images







This week i get a shipment of 40 plants i will post images when i get them.

Last edited by mmenz22779; 06-25-2007 at 08:44 PM. Reason: Updated title to avoid miscommunication
mmenz22779 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-22-2007, 08:20 PM
Planted Tank Guru
 
fishscale's Avatar
 
PTrader: (12/100%)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,895
Chinese algae eaters aren't very good algae eaters, and they tend to be aggressive when they grow bigger, but it's probably fine given that you have a semi aggressive tank. Common plecos get very large, so hopefully you got dwarves. I think that any shrimp you put in there would probably get eaten. I'm not sure that they could output enough oxygen to sustain your fish. How big is this tank? Both types of cichlids you have get pretty big, as do the redtail sharks, which also need a lot of room to swim. As long as the tank is big enough, I think it's fine.

EDIT: the crayfish are probably not a good idea, they will eat whatever they can catch.

Eheim Pimp #254, Eheim Wolverine #1


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Work in progress
10 Gallon Shrimp Tank
10 Gallon Planted QT
20 Gallon Shrimp Tank (Work in progress)


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by fishscale; 06-22-2007 at 08:21 PM. Reason: Forgot to read something
fishscale is offline  
post #3 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-22-2007, 08:24 PM
Roc
Guest
 
PTrader: (43/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 662
What size is that tank, it sounds like you have a lot of fish so I hope it's pretty big. I also think we would need to know what type of fish not just ciclhilds or plecos since there range in size and needs quite a bit.
Roc is offline  
 
post #4 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-22-2007, 08:30 PM
Planted Tank Guru
 
OverStocked's Avatar
 
PTrader: (76/94%)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SoDak
Posts: 10,732
For the fish you have, I honestly hope you have over 100 gallons. The plecos, Algae eaters, chanell cats, are all going to cause one problem or another. One of those problems is 2 of the 3 get HUGE.
OverStocked is offline  
post #5 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-22-2007, 08:46 PM Thread Starter
Guest
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 43
Well i guess i am kinda screwed

I have a 55 gal tank,

I was hoping that the fish will only grow in relative to the size of the tank

Exact count i have the following

3 Common pletcos (all small)
1 Large common pletco
3(chinese algae eaters)
1 crayfish (he cant catch anything) But i did not thing about babies.Would shrimp be a better choice?
4 large green betas
5 medium tiger betas
4 medium T-Tetras
4 Danios (medium)
2 redtail sharks (1 Small 1 Med)
6 medium Cichlids

plants

Anubias barteri ''coffeefolia''
Anubias barteri var. angustifolia (''afzelii'
Anubias barteri var. barteri
Anubias barteri var. caladiifolia ''1705''
Anubias barteri var. nana
Crinum thaianum
Echinodorus osiris
Echinodorus x barthii
Littorella uniflora
Microsorum pteropus ''Narrow''
Microsorum pteropus ''Undulata''
Microsorum pteropus
Microsorum pteropus ''Philippine''
Microsorum pteropus 'WindelÝv'
Vallisneria americana (gigantea)
Moss

4 Peices of drift wood

that is it

D.M.
mmenz22779 is offline  
post #6 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-22-2007, 09:21 PM
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
Solstice's Avatar
 
PTrader: (21/100%)
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 644
If all of your cichlids are convicts you have about enough room for them and nothing else.... Maybe the Danios if they're big enough to not get eaten when the convicts get larger.

Sol
90gal non-planted - gone - It sprung a leak and shattered
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
- 6 neons, lots of RCS, a few CRS, 3 Ottos, oogles of snails

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
- 100+ CRS, Red Ramshorn Snails

Questions about dosing nano tanks? Please
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.
Solstice is offline  
post #7 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-23-2007, 11:39 PM
Planted Tank Guru
 
OverStocked's Avatar
 
PTrader: (76/94%)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SoDak
Posts: 10,732
Sweet jesus. You are so over stocked it isn't even funny.

Sorry, not trying to be rude--you are just in for a HUGE disaster. Each of those plecos WILL eventually reach well over a foot--to 3 feet....

Cichlids+beta=bad, bad idea.

Like solstice said, if all of your cichlids, or any for that matter, are convicts--you are in for serious trouble. They are by far the most aggressive cichlid by when considering size to aggression.

They also breed like rabbits and no one wants their fry.

Common plecos are good for nothing. They eat little and poop lots.

I would get a smaller pleco like a bristlenose, ditch the bettas, and eliminate the crayfish as well.


The concept that the fish would only grow to their tank size is outdated and in itself bad fishkeeping. The only thing that would keep them stunted would be poor conditions, which these fish in this tank will create. So sure, they won't grow that big, but it's not because they aren't trying, it's because the conditions that will be created are poor.
OverStocked is offline  
post #8 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-24-2007, 02:19 AM Thread Starter
Guest
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 43
I only have 2 convict Cichlids
the other 4 are albino

I am not sure what kind of pletcos they are.

I did not mean to type betas i meant barbs (ya beta and cichlids would be terrible)

Also i do not have tetras, again i meant barbs, ( i don't know what i was thinking)

to clarify

3 pletcos (all small) don't know what kind
1 Large common pletco
3 (Chinese algae eaters)
1 crayfish (he cant catch anything) But i did not think about babies. Would shrimp be a better choice?
4 large green barbs
4 medium tiger barbs
4 medium T-barbs
4 danios (medium)
2 red tail sharks (1 Small 1 Med)
6 medium Cichlids (2 convicts 4 albino)
3 blue channel cats
2 line cats (2 yrs old)

Sorry for the confusion.

I will try and post pics soon.

I they have places to hid as well
mmenz22779 is offline  
post #9 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-24-2007, 03:01 AM
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
danakin's Avatar
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Midland, MI
Posts: 506
Could you please add a 56k Warning to the subject or make the images a smaller resolution? Thanks!


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
danakin is offline  
post #10 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-24-2007, 03:03 AM Thread Starter
Guest
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 43
I have added the images of my tank. see my original post

I still need to add the 40+ plants though

D.M.
mmenz22779 is offline  
post #11 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-24-2007, 03:08 AM
Planted Tank Guru
 
James From Cali's Avatar
 
PTrader: (8/100%)
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sacramento, California
Posts: 2,924
Send a message via MSN to James From Cali Send a message via Yahoo to James From Cali
3 pletcos (all small) don't know what kind-Try to post pics so we can identify
1 Large common pletco- Definitely rehome soon.
3 (Chinese algae eaters)-They should be fine
1 crayfish (he cant catch anything) But i did not think about babies. Would shrimp be a better choice?-Shrimp wont be good with your fish stock.
4 large green barbs- I think you are refering to Green Tiger Barbs
4 medium tiger barbs- Will school, usually, with the Greens
4 medium T-barbs- Would need more to keep things peaceful.
4 danios (medium)-Giant Danios most likely. You have too many schoolers in this tank
2 red tail sharks (1 Small 1 Med)- They should be fine
6 medium Cichlids (2 convicts 4 albino)- So you have 2 black Convicts and 4 Pink(or white/albino/leucistic) Convicts? They will get very aggressive if any pair up.
3 blue channel cats-They get large so be prepared to rehome.
2 line cats (2 yrs old)


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
James From Cali is offline  
post #12 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-24-2007, 03:14 AM Thread Starter
Guest
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 43
James this is the best pic i could for now of the plecto. As soon as he gives me a better one i will get it.



My Cichlids i think are white but have a pink belly,



thanks for the feedback
D.M/
mmenz22779 is offline  
post #13 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-24-2007, 03:19 AM
Planted Tank Guru
 
James From Cali's Avatar
 
PTrader: (8/100%)
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sacramento, California
Posts: 2,924
Send a message via MSN to James From Cali Send a message via Yahoo to James From Cali
Cant see a thing in the pic lol. If your Cichlids look like this:



Then you have Pink Convicts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
James From Cali is offline  
post #14 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-24-2007, 03:21 AM Thread Starter
Guest
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 43
ya that is what it looks like

thanks for the info
mmenz22779 is offline  
post #15 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-24-2007, 03:43 AM
Planted Tank Guru
 
James From Cali's Avatar
 
PTrader: (8/100%)
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sacramento, California
Posts: 2,924
Send a message via MSN to James From Cali Send a message via Yahoo to James From Cali
Also the fish all the way to the right(the golden orange one) looks like a red devil and the darker blue ones dont look like convicts.

The darker ones look like this cichlid:


Aequidens portalegrensis


They have Dimorphic differences in gender so the ones in the profile pic and in your pic looks like a male.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
James From Cali is offline  
Reply

Tags
None

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome