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Hi all, I just started my 40G tank. I've got feeder guppies in there to cycle the tank and I'm running a eheim ecco 2231 for it and i set it at a very low flow. I used 100% flourite and apparently I didn't rinse the darn stuff enough because when I planted in it, it kicked up a lot of dust. Now my tank is a white haze. Oh well, I'm just wondering if this is a bacterial bloom or a green water algae bloom. Let me know. Thanks.
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If you just set it up, I would say neither. It is just suspended matter from the flourite. Should clear up in a few days max with regular filtration...


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How is that Ecco Hubbs?

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When I setup my Saltwater tank a few years ago I had the same problem, cloudy water because the sand kicked up all over the place. I added a product called Filter Aid to the pad in my filter... water was crystal clear within 24 hours.
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Hi Jason, it's actually been a week and it's still a white haze.

Hi Mike, I'm not incredibly impressed by the Ecco. It is not dead silent as some people have reported. At least not in my situation. Bigals has been real nice and they shipped me a new impeller, but my Ecco is still loud. Well, it's not really loud, but it's not silent either. It sounds like an ocean breeze blowing by the beach.

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Hi Jason, it's actually been a week and it's still a white haze.
My 125 took almost two weeks to clear up. Water changes will help also... as will a floculant like AJ mentioned. Keep an eye on your parameters and above all patience

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Thanks Jason, I'll give it some time and hopefully one day it will just disappear and the water will be clear. I'm not excited about using flocculants for fear of hurting the fish..

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Hubba,

Are you running all the pads in that Ecco? There should be a micron pad (the very top one I believe...black and real thin, if I remember correctly) that came with the filter media for that sucker. Run that with it and it should clear it up somewhat.

I might be able to drop by this weekend if you're free and take another look at that 40-gallon of yours since it's up and running now.
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Hi Eric, you are always welcome at my house. Isn't the black one the carbon pad?????

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I've had new-ish tanks get bacterial blooms after any substrate dust settled. Water changes made it worse (tried that years ago). Seems that the bacteria that naturally live in the tank can initially overpopulate, making the water cloudy, then they die off to a normal level.

In ecological popupation-dynamics terms, initial bacterial reproduction rates (r) cause the population to greatly exceed its carrying capacity (k). After this point, lack of resources causes r to drop, reducing the population (n). If n gets below k, r will increase (due to abundant resources), although r will be less than before since resources are not as overly abundant. Eventually, things settle out at k, and your water will be clear. It can take a couple of weeks. I would try to resist the temptation to change any water at this time, which would put you back toward the beginning. Been there, done that.

Wow. I must be feeling especially geeky today.

And, although I have used flocculants in the past for things, especially when I was feeling impatient, I am no longer a fan. A couple of weeks ago it killed my hand-collected swamp darters from a trip to Florida. I woke up in the morning, and they were all gone.

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Yes, I believe so. Are you running that in the Ecco right now?
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No I'm not running it right now cuz i didn't want the carbon take away the precious minerals....

Thanks Laura, for your info.

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I wouldn't worry too much about the minerals at the moment. Just run that sucker in there for a couple of days or so and it should clear it up quite a bit.
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do you have your black pad in your ecco?

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I haven't run the black pad in the filter yet, due to the fact that it supposedly pulls a lot out of the tank. I see no harm for you to run it for a couple of days just to polish the water out and make it less cloudy though.
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