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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-29-2004, 02:28 AM Thread Starter
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This is a website I stumbled upon while surfing and decided to check it out. It is a longwinded, somewhat elusive introduction to actually get to the aquarium products they offer but is quite interesting.

www.eztank.com

The site basically claims that all other "aquarium filtration systems are poisoning the animals we are trying to keep alive" because of bacterial filtration.

I know I have removed almost all of my biological media in an effort to have the plants do that work.

The site also claims that "the only filtration needed is algae and a good prefilter".

Anyways, before I describe the whole sight, I would like for some of my fellow aquarists here to check this out and voice your opinions on what is described at this site. I know a lot of us here have been applying some of these methods with good success. I am very interested to hear what others may think of eztank.com? :?
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Wow, their site is so cluttered and hard to read. In the end their idea is not really all that new- just hyped up. Plants make great biological filters. That's it.

Did you start pricing out their systems? They quickly run up to several hundred dollars. :shock:
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Looks like a Refug that the reef guys use... Great idea to market it like that... Just shows you plants make great filters like Mario said... Might work pretty well in a tank with big messy fish and no intank plants...


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If you dig deep enough into their site you can actually find a tank with complete accesories that cost $28,000!! :shock:

This is more than the last brand new car that I purchased. :lol:
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I know I have removed almost all of my biological media in an effort to have the plants do that work.
What about the gravel? Thats the biggest biological media in our tanks. The plants send oxygen to the roots and the bacteria converts the waste. I don't think the plants take out as much nutrients from the water column as the bacteria. Bacteria is everywhere in a system, on glass, etc. So you would still supposedly be poisoning the fish even with their equipment. I haven't read the site, but it works the same way in nature. I thought algae increases TDS by releasing nutrients back to the water column?
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yes ... but if you had a system that removed all the wastes, the bacteria would not exist as it feeds on that waste.

i read most of it and then got to the prices and decieded my cannister is a lovely piece of equipment.
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Angry Aquaricare Algae Scrubbers

Hello! I thought I'd warn anyone buying a Algae Scrubber From MMFI Aquaricare.I bought a filtering system from .Mark A. Reinke.Owner of the company.After I paid off my filtering system in December,I called,and asked Mark when he would send me my system.He said in March.I asked him why it would take so long to get my system.He said there were so many orders,that it would take that long to send it.Well,the very next month,the website is still on the web,but is under construction,and is updated often.But you can't reach him by the website,phone,or fax.I went to the Denver BBB,and he has five complaints against him this year,for not sending people their systems,or not replacing leaking,and faulty algae scrubbers.I've contacted a legal aide service to help me get my money returned to me.Almost five hundred dollars.So buyers beware!
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No, not in this case.

The performance of algae scrubbers have been documented. It's widely known that algae absorbs nitrates. I have not bought these products, but I've read quite a bit about them. I believe they are basically panes of glass in an enclosed module with a very bright light. Water passes along and in between the glass panes.

The problem... the person selling them for the aquarium industry not only has no idea how to market and design a web page, he knows how to drive customers away and make the products appear bogus. His site (on multiple domains) contains VERY long ramblings that make him come across as a lunatic. (If you have ever seen web pages designed by people with disorders such as schizophrenia, they resemble his page.) The product presentation is very poor. He claims to be a lawyer, so I've seen threads on other forums discussing the products deleted.

He also makes over the top claims about the products. Such as bio filters poison fish. What I believe he's trying to say is an aquarium is a sewage treatment plant on a very small scale (which is true). In big lakes, there's just as much or more "filtration" by algae as there is by bacteria (again which is true). Big ponds and lakes contain millions of gallons of water. Aquariums contain tens of gallons of water. If you take the time to filter through all of the ramblings, you will see that he actually recommends using an algae scrubber plus a "prefilter" which is pretty much a bio filter. He basically contradicts himself. I don't have a link to the article, but I have read that in testing, tanks with only an algae scrubber develop discolored water.

I would believe that an algae scrubber makes a great supplemental filter (in addition to a cannister) to add to fully stocked planted tank or a tank with no plants (tanks with lots of excess nutrients). A lightly stocked heavily planted tank probably won't benefit from having a load of algae in the algae scrubber to compete with.

Again, I believe these are valid and legit products, but as long as that website is designed the way it is, it will never gain acceptance.

Do some googling for "algae scrubber" and you will find some articles validating these products.

Edit - And if you look at the post above mine from Dob, he also has no idea how to run a business as well... buyers should avoid him.
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