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Question Iwagumi style rocks? ASA and Power Sand in 29 Gal?

I'm looking to convert my current 29 gal. into a basic ADA AS substrate Iwagumi, and since Iwagumi is the "artistic placement of rocks" I want to make sure I order the right rocks, and the right amount.
For rocks like these, I THINK I need to buy these or these
So some conformation on this would be so greatly appreciated
So, do either of these purchasable rocks match the first example, or this example
Would either one of these online sources be better than the other. About how many "baseball" or "softball" sized rocks would come in an order of 1 kilo. Im suspecting I would need about 3 or 4 kilos to make sure I get a good varying selection.... tell me what you think. I'm obviously leaning towards the cheaper resource, but quality is the most important to me.


My final question is most likely very simple to answer, and my lack of intelligence is inhibiting me from attaining the information myself. How much Power Sand Special would I need for a thin layer under Amazonia Aqua Soil, and how much of the ASA would I need. I have no idea how many liters the bottom of my 29 Gallon requires, so some help, or advice would be so great. My wording may be confusing, so I want to do this with my substrate

Thank you so much, and I hope my questions haven't been answered previously or anything, I know how that can be annoying. I DID check the search before posting... yeah...

Thank you so much!! I tried hard to provide links to make everything easier for you guys, sorry if my questions are a bit scrambled

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Some of those rock come in small size. Just enough for a nano aquarium, how do I know this? I called aquaforestaquarium.com and they said that the largest size they have is about a fist. I think the only way of getting the size and looks you want is contacting someone from Asia that have those type of stone.
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Her rocks look like a pretty good size to me and she says she got them at aquaristic... so I'm gonna give them a call when I get around to it... Now, the substrate questions....
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Is this Seiryu Rock one large rock, or a couple small ones?
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Is this Seiryu Rock one large rock, or a couple small ones?
You can call in your order and specify what you want and they'll try to get as close as they can.
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For a 29 gallon you will need 1 9 liter and 1 3 liter bag of aqua soil. 1 9 liter covers a 20 gallon tall 2 inches. 24x12x16
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Is this Seiryu Rock one large rock, or a couple small ones?
When you order the rocks, you can specify. But as epicfish mentioned, you can also call and make sure you get exactly what you want. If you tell them what size tank, how many "pieces" approx, and that you're looking to make an iwagumi style tank, I bet they'll be able to pick a good variety for ya. I highly recommend the Seiryu rock, the shapes it comes in are pretty unique, and it looks awesome in a iwagumi setup.

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Would 2 liters of PowerSand Special S and 9 liters of Aqua Soil be enough?


ONE MORE QUESTION - Which would be a wiser choice for the ground foliage in a 29 Gallon Iwagumi (Potential 4.5wpg, Pres. CO2, Daily Ferts), Glossostigma Elatinoides, or Hemianthus Callitrichoides?

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I'd sugguest not covering the entire base with powersand, and use only one 2 liter bag of powersand in the places you plan on having the most planting. That way you will be able to get by with about 12 liters of ASA, and only one 2 liter bag of PS.
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Thanks, that should be enough I presume.
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Item/ $ Price/ Sales Tax/ Price w/ Tax

30" 2x65 Coralife $130.00 $9.10 $139.10
Rena Filstar XP2 $80.00 $5.60 $85.60
20 oz. CO2 Paint Ball Tank $15.00 $1.05 $16.05
Red Sea Regulator and Needle Valve $70.00 $4.90 $74.90
Rhinox 2000 $15.00 $1.05 $16.05
Check Valve - Rex Griggs $12.00 $0.84 $12.84
CO2 Tubing $5.00 $0.35 $5.35
Amazonia Aqua Soil 12 Liters 2 bags $35.00 $2.45 $37.45
Power Sand Special S 2 Liter Bag $20.00 $1.40 $21.40
Seiryu Rocks $20.00 $1.40 $21.40
Seachem Flourish 500 mL $8.00 $0.56 $8.56
Seachem Potassium 500 mL $8.00 $0.56 $8.56
Seachem Nitrogen 500 mL $8.00 $0.56 $8.56
Seachem Phosphorus 500 mL $8.00 $0.56 $8.56

Totals: $434.00 $30.38 $464.38

Thats what I've got so far, I hope it's everything. Sorry, it didn't copy and paste right...
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