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crooked stand

So, this stand I bought it lopsided. This is one of the reasons why the ADA 60-P #2 tank is slightly bowing. I also think that part of my floor might not be 100% level.

The water level is a 1/2 inch lower on the back right side than the front left.

Naturally, this makes me VERY nervous. Sure, in reality, nothing will probably happen. It's a good quality tank, and we are only talking 18 gallons of water here. But with 50 shrimp, 12 nice dwarf cories, a $100 tank, a $50 light, and hardwood floors I have reason to worry. Murphy's Law.

Anyway, how do I go about shoring it up? My dad keeps talking about "shims". I'm not sure what exactly they are.

Anyone else with a similar experience want to provide some insight?

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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 03-19-2007, 05:01 AM
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Shims. Little plastic doo-dads which come in thicknesses of: 1/16", 1/8", 1/4" and 1/2". They look like little horse-shoes.
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my 55 gallon FINALLY broke yesterday- not the whole tank, but the center support. I've know it was going to happen. It was on a stand I made for 2 years, and I had a solid top which I sanded a bit to aggresssively. The ONE corner of the tank was slightly off the stand, and I've noticed the sealant getting white over the past few month. Finally, the center support craked off from the pressure and now I have to go get a new tank & Stand tomorrow. it looks like I'm going to DOWNGRADE. I'm going to get a 46 gallon Oceanic Bowfront. I'm hoping that even though it's less gallons, I'll have more planting room because of the larger front to back area. We'll see. I know I'm going to kick myself for going down. I REALLY want the 72 gallon bowfront, but my Landlord and I are both afraid 700+lbs is a bit too much for the floor to handle. (It's in a wierd corner over a staircase where there are no walls/beams under it)
So yes-be concerned - then again, at 18 gallons, it's doubtful anything will happen for a good long while - but I'd shim it...
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my Landlord and I are both afraid 700+lbs is a bit too much for the floor to handle. (It's in a wierd corner over a staircase where there are no walls/beams under it)
So if you had 4 big friends all stand in that corner at the same time, do you think something bad would happen?
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Mr.Belvedere,I think you should not wait too long .
Just try to find small pieces of 1/8" ,or 1/16" mild steel from any metal manufacturing place and put them under the legs of your stand and level it before its too late.
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Wow, is this a major concern if it is not 100% level? I've got a 55 that I just set up, nothing it it yet but water and a piece of driftwood (still waiting on some parts)...
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Okay, I'll go to the hardware store today and see what they have.

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When you get to the hardware store buy a 24 inch spirit level. It will help you get the stand level without the guess work.
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So if you had 4 big friends all stand in that corner at the same time, do you think something bad would happen?
If they stood there for 3 years something bad may happen. There is no bearing wall under this area of the house. It's kind of "free floating"- not really, but there is no support UNDER it, just the beams, which I'm not confident are good for folding 700+lbs for a few years straight. The home is over 100 years old, and I have no idea how sound it is - So I'm not going to chance it. *(even though I REALLY want that 72 gallon bowfront!)
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Personally, I think we often overestimate what is needed to support our aquariums' weight... or underestimate the strength of our floor, house, etc.
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Personally, I think we often overestimate what is needed to support our aquariums' weight... or underestimate the strength of our floor, house, etc.
But the question is - Is it better to over estmate, or under-estimate and potentially cause damage. Sure-75 gallons is PROBABLY fine in most cases, but each person has to decide if they're willing to take a gamble on something that could possibly cause thousands of dollars worth of damage. That is my concern. I'm going to have a strictural engineer check out my place to see if it looks OK or not. (yes-I'm VERY anal...)
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I agree with you, and I'm definitely in the category of the people I'm talking about. Just stating an opinion that we are probably still being a bit 'overcareful'... which I agree is better.
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i thought buildings are built with a factor of safety of like 2-3 times...
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But testing those safety boundaries isn't a good idea.

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i thought buildings are built with a factor of safety of like 2-3 times...
Building codes change as well. 100 years ago, there weren't any, so homes were just built. Some floors might be able to support an elephant; others might spell disaster if a fat person walks too fast.


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