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Best overall liquid fertilizer?

I don't have a lot of money to spend on individual supplements like iron, magnesium, phosphates, etc. so I want to get one bottle that has most of the necessary nutrients. Which one do you guys reccomend? Thanks.
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Go with greg watson dry ferts if its the money.

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Agreed, and you could try mixing up the ferts ala PMDD (Poor Man's Daily Dose) to keep it all in one bottle, though most recommend individual dosing. Website is Greg Watsons: http://www.aquariumfertilizer.com/store/pmdd_premix.php





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Liquid? No cheap options there. As far as traces, most of us use Flourish or TMG (Tropica Master Grow). For NPK, Fleet Enema, and garden center K and N could do well.

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A similar topic came up a few days ago. By the time you finish reading both pages you should have a pretty basic understanding:

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ge...fertlizer.html

Basically you will need a Trace fert (Flourish) or buy CSM+B (in bulk for cheap) from www.aquariumfertilizer.com

You will also need N, P, K which is explained in that thread link I posted. (Also can be purchased in bulk for cheap).

For more detailed readings visit www.rexgrigg.com and check out the guides.
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SeaChem Flourish.
I also use this iron additives that works really well!!!!
A few drop of this stuff (forgot what the name is), plants grow overnight .. literally.
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Flourish IS NOT a fertilizer. It's a supplement.

What's the difference you ask?

A cheese burger is food. A vitamin pill is a supplement.

Fertilizer is food.
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I guess Greg sells a PMDD premix, which has it all in one. Not the most specific way to dose, but covers the broadbrush for those who just won't dose individually. Not always guaranteed successful this way, but more likely than just dosing Flourish.

http://www.aquariumfertilizer.com/store/pmdd_premix.php

The one thing some of us forget though, is some folks have plenty of K,N, & P and possibly traces through fish waste. If its a low enough light setup, they may be fine not dosing.





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Flourish IS NOT a fertilizer. It's a supplement.

What's the difference you ask?

A cheese burger is food. A vitamin pill is a supplement.

Fertilizer is food.
That's actually a really good explanation!
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Rex is always good for making things easy to understand.

The only part of the Seachem Flourish line that is worth buying is Excel IMHO


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I use K2PO4 from greg watson, Seachem Iron, and Kent Pro-Plant. I do not use CSM+B due to it having copper in it, my shrimp can get harmed. I also do not dose KNO3 (nitrate) because there is enough nitrate coming from shrimp waste...

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Rex is always good for making things easy to understand.

The only part of the Seachem Flourish line that is worth buying is Excel IMHO
Im not saying Excel is bad but not all plants can tolerate it. Ive killed plants by using the recommended dose. I would do a little research before using it.
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I use Flourish and PO4 and KNO3 with excel.

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Im not saying Excel is bad but not all plants can tolerate it. Ive killed plants by using the recommended dose. I would do a little research before using it.
Bacopa autralist + Excel = pretty dead Bacopa
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If you want liquid-Use Yamato green. I'll leave it at that as we went into depth on it last week. But it has all the macros and micros in it for the most part. You can get one with N as well...or supplemental K or P. But the regular should be fine. I love it...
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