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How's this for a cichlid combo?

I tried many SA cichlid combos on Aqadvisor(however accurate that is?!) and got as best as this:
1 x McMaster dwarf
1x German Blue Ram
1 x Kribensis
1 x Cockatoo Apisto
1 x Rio Negro dwarf
1 x African Butterfly !??

The tank is 20 gallon.

Does anyone have something of the sort?Or is Aqadvisor not properly updated?

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I think that is too small for that many cichlids IMHO. Most advise a minimum of 55 gal for adult cichlids. Granted when they are smaller you could probably get away with less as long as you upgrade as they grow. I had 3 south africans in a 10g for a few weeks, and just upgraded them to a 29. I'm sure I could stock more as they barely take up any space in the tank, all 1.5 -2 inches. Are you planning to upgrade in the future or will the 20 be a permanent home? If you've ever heard of fish growing to their enviroment its usually an issue of ammonia stunting their growth in an over stocked tank, so the more you keep in a smaller tank, the more closely you will have to monitor everything, water changes, etc...
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You are going to run into a lot of territorial issues with that many species.

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You can do a pair of krib, ram, or apisto with that size tank and some plants. Should work out wonderfully if all parameters are consistent. If you want to sustain different species go bigger

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I'm going to have to agree that I think a 20 gallon and all these cichlids would be asking for trouble. You'd have to have some serious amount of cover for all of them to get along, and I think that would only be for a short period of time.

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I was sure there are too many species....yet the site didn't give any warnings for this combo,even when I added the African Butterfly with the SA???.........for the other dwarf species available it always said I would need a larger tank...territorial issues etc...I guess it means the site is not properly updated for all the combos,right?I knew it was too good to be true ,thanx guys!

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I think that is too small for that many cichlids IMHO. Most advise a minimum of 55 gal for adult cichlids. Granted when they are smaller you could probably get away with less as long as you upgrade as they grow. I had 3 south africans in a 10g for a few weeks, and just upgraded them to a 29. I'm sure I could stock more as they barely take up any space in the tank, all 1.5 -2 inches. Are you planning to upgrade in the future or will the 20 be a permanent home? If you've ever heard of fish growing to their enviroment its usually an issue of ammonia stunting their growth in an over stocked tank, so the more you keep in a smaller tank, the more closely you will have to monitor everything, water changes, etc...
I thought 55g was the rule of thumb for African Cichlids?

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The site started to give warnings (territory issues) as soon as I addded 2 or more fish of the same species - pairing means breeding so increased aggressiveness towards others.
Does this mean I can have 3 species in the tank ,with one fish of each?

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It is possible but in a 20 gallon i think you would enjoy a pair or trio ( 1 male 2 female ) and a school of small tetra or something similar. They will act much more natural and color up better.

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It is possible but in a 20 gallon i think you would enjoy a pair or trio ( 1 male 2 female ) and a school of small tetra or something similar. They will act much more natural and color up better.

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Indeed ,I was thinking about a pair of GermaN bLUE Rams ,and a Gourami or something.

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