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Planted set up, and needing IDs

I just turned this 10gal into a planted tank. I recently found out the 1st two plants I bought were glosso and java fern (as some of you may have read in a different thread). I got 2 more plants tonight. LFS didn't even have a name on them. Just a picture and price.

What are these stem plants? It was $1.89 a bunch. I got two bunches.





I'm assuming this one's some type of sword?? This was $3.38





(Note: I didn't realize the glosso was covered by the sword until after this pic was taken. I'll fix that. This was a pic of the side of my tank that faces towards the wall. That's why I didn't see it right away).

Here's how I planted the glosso before I was told that they needed to be planted individually



Here it is after





Here's the java fern...(note: the goldie was moved to a different tank)



Here's a full tank shot



I plan to add DIY CO2. I will be upgrading the lighting, but not quite yet. In the meant time I will add tin foil to the top of a lights to act as reflectors.

There are no fish in this tank right now. I may add some feeder guppies, ghost shrimp, and otos later. Substrate is plain sand. Lighting are two 15watt flourescent fixures.
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Nice start. That java fern should be attached to something, rock or driftwood. That first picture looks like bacopa.

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I forgot.... what are you specs? Lighting, co2? Any other fish in there?

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First plant looks like Lysimachia nummularia to me.
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You may find that your Glosso will grow/spread quicker if you trimmed the bottom portion just below the top leaf node (maybe 1/4 inch below) and replanted it so that the leaves are just above the substrate. That usually gets it to root & spread quicker.
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First plant looks like Lysimachia nummularia to me.
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two 15watt flourescent fixures

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co2?
none yet. Will be making a DIY co2 unit. How many bubbles per minute would I need?

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Any other fish in there?
No fish yet. Will be adding feeder guppies and ghost shrimp. Maybe some otos or other plant friendly algae eaters.

Do any of my plants need ferts? If so would ones need the ferts and what ferts do I get? This is my first planted tank.
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Those sword plants would probably like some sort of substrate fertilization (root tabs, etc.) since they are heavy root-feeders. Most aquatic plants will benefit from fertilization, but some plants don't really require much of anything to grow (java moss for example). I assume you are fairly new to planted tanks? It may be a good idea to start familiarizing yourself with fertilizer nomenclature & different types of dosing & routines. Searching this forum will yield days worth of information for you to learn from.
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The sword appears to have been grown emmersed, so the leaves may die back slowly and new leaves grow in the submearsed form. Also it may get very large.
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Those sword plants would probably like some sort of substrate fertilization (root tabs, etc.) since they are heavy root-feeders. Most aquatic plants will benefit from fertilization
What type of sword do I have? What types of ferts does it need?

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It may be a good idea to start familiarizing yourself with fertilizer nomenclature & different types of dosing & routines. Searching this forum will yield days worth of information for you to learn from.
I've been looking through the threads. I need to figure out what kind of sword I have so I know what ferts to use.
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Update: I made the CO2 system. It isn't producing any CO2 yet. I just set it up a cople minutes ago. When can I expect co2?

Here's a link to the thread showing my reaction chamber design.

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/eq...e-diy-co2.html
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Your CO2...Just give it time check on it tommarow it should be on its way to giving you co2.

Your sword could be a melon sword, Ferts are just plain old root tabs that you can get at pet smart or your Local fish store. just push it under the plant and leave it alone. sword plants don't like to be moved.
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Your CO2...Just give it time check on it tommarow it should be on its way to giving you co2.

Your sword could be a melon sword, Ferts are just plain old root tabs that you can get at pet smart or your Local fish store. just push it under the plant and leave it alone. sword plants don't like to be moved.
Thanks Ram! I keep looking online and through my plant books but all the swords start looking alike after awaile. I'm worried about the sword growing big and covering the glosso. I think its going to be moved into a different tank.
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another question: I see lots of liquid ferts at my lfs in 10oz containers. Do liquid ferts burn the plant roots? I know in house plants they do.
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No, your plant's roots will not get burned. Aquatic plants absorb nutrients through their roots AND their leaf structures. So dosing fertilizer into the water column supplies nutrients for the plants to absorb directly from the water column. Not all plants absorb nutrients the same way, or with the same root/leaf absorbtion ratio. But sword plants are one of the most voracious root-feeders that are in the hobby
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