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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-28-2013, 02:09 AM Thread Starter
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Vals dying all of a sudden

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My vals are dying all of a sudden. At first they didn't grow much then out of nowhere there were a total of four runners off of two plants. And now everything looks poor. Parts of the leaves are pretty much translucent and the outer part of the plant seem to have cracks all over. They just look very brittle. Is there a deficiency? Should I trim the plant? Help please..

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In my experience jungle vals are pretty much indestructible. Have you made any changes to your tank conditions at all?

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Thats what I thought. Like I said its a three week old tank, and I just started dosing flourish comprehensive a week ago. My co2 is starting to slow down and its almost time for a new batch. Could it be that?

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How hard is your water?


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my tank does the same thing to vals and swords - i don't know why. I have soft, slightly acidic water (6.5), I do dry type ferts at about half EI and no Co2.


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I have a high pH 8.0 out of tap but 7.5 in tank. And I'm pretty sure my water is hard.

I have some root tabs I'll try and see if the vals improve.
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Just give them some time. I see nothing wrong with your conditions


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The leaves are just falling apart they are so brittle.
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Is it happening to the older plants or the runners too? I planted some vals not too long ago either and the older leaves aren't doing so well, kind of like melting. But the runners are fine so I'm assuming its just acclimating.
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Runners as well. Check out the second picture I uploaded. They aren't as bad as the main plant but they are declining as well.
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From what I can see most of your new growth seems to be okay. The older leaves do tend to get brittle when transferred or just with age.

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Looks light nutrient deficiency. Comprehensive may not be enough. Might need To dose N,P,K.
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In my experience vals aren't really prone to nutrient deficiency. Started with a thicket of vals in my tank that I left alone for a year (except topping off) and it became a val farm, and that was with pea gravel.

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Yesterday I had picked up some fleet enema, epsom salt, and stump remover for diy macro ferts.
Followed the guide at the site below
http://aquaria.net/articles/plants/fertsols/macro/
Im gonna give it a shot and dose three times a week.

I had thought about gla for ferts but this was cheaper and didn't have to wait for shipping.
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Vals may not need a lot of nutrients but he seems to be driving his tank to where it is probably using up all available nutrients. Also the structure of the val looks pretty thin and has holes. Just deducing.
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