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Glass "jug", some sun, no equipment. fish?

Hey guys. I have a large glass "jug" for lack of a better word. I havent filled it but im guessing its about 7 gallons? It sits on a table in my living room and gets sun a few hours a day. The room is air conditioned and set at 77. In winter the room is heated but kept on the cool side.
There would be no equipment at all. Water/floating plants or some planted. Is there any fish I could keep in here? I would love to save a Betta from his tiny bowl at the local pet store.
Also. If you say no that's fine. I would rather it sit empty than put something in there and have it die.
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You can absolutely do a betta.
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I thought Betta's needed special requirements? Of course it's better than a tiny bowl at the store.
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You can improvise a filter with a sponge and airpump.Get a small ,second hand heater for winter period just in case.Add live low light plants ,do a cycle and you're good.Do some research on Betta and you're good..

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unfortunately there is no outlet in the area the jug is. I know that sounds dumb but it's true. Also I really don't want a long cord hanging from a table and going across the room, hence why I was asking about no equipment.
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Depending on the opening, I am not sure you could put anything in there without some equipment. Betta need a source of surface air and if all it has is a bottle top opening, there may or may not be enough air exchange in the neck of the bottle. CO2 is heavier than 'air' and it could puddle up in the neck of the bottle, blocking oxygen from reaching the water surface.

Maybe if you can get plants living under the water you could stock it with cherry shrimp?
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The top is open like a jug. If the water level was slightly lower than the top it would be about a 9 inch open surface area.
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7 gallon jug with a 9" opening. How tall is the jug?.

I'd go planted but with a smaller species of fish than a betta. A couple of sparkling gourami's might work better. They like slightly cooler water and can take lower oxygen levels.

I'd still commit to doing two 25% water changes per week to keep the tank healthy.
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Drop a thermometer in there just to be safe. I have several jar-based pico tanks and I tried to keep snails in one of them... they kept dying and I couldn't figure out why until I dropped a thermometer in and found out the water temp rose to over 90 degrees during the day! It only got direct sunlight for around 4 hours each morning, but that was enough to heat the water significantly.

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The top is open like a jug. If the water level was slightly lower than the top it would be about a 9 inch open surface area.
And if the jug was full the opening would be maybe 1 inch? If you have the level low (9 inch) there would be plenty of surface area for the fish to access but the air exchenge between the jug and the world is still just 1". Without a good breeze across the jug top to draw old stale air out I suspect you would still end up suffocating a betta.

But I could be wrong too. Just food for thought.
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7 gallon jug with a 9" opening. How tall is the jug?.

I'd go planted but with a smaller species of fish than a betta. A couple of sparkling gourami's might work better. They like slightly cooler water and can take lower oxygen levels.

I'd still commit to doing two 25% water changes per week to keep the tank healthy.
I'm guessing on the water volume. I haven't filled it yet.
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And if the jug was full the opening would be maybe 1 inch? If you have the level low (9 inch) there would be plenty of surface area for the fish to access but the air exchenge between the jug and the world is still just 1". Without a good breeze across the jug top to draw old stale air out I suspect you would still end up suffocating a betta.

But I could be wrong too. Just food for thought.
The actual opening is 6 and a half inches across. Then there is a small neck, and the actually container which is 9 inches across.
I'm sorry that my descriptions were initially confusing.

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I assume you don't want to have equipment in the jug? Cords or airlines coming out the top would kill the aesthetic imo.

I am pretty sure with low light plants growing, like crypts and anubias etc, you could put in some shrimp.. possibly a small fish.

Could also put a cork in the top and turn it into a sealed system. Would certainly need to find appropriate plants for this route.

The other idea would be to find submersable battery operated equipment to put inside the jug. I know of a small battery operated air pump made by... marina (i think)
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Make it an emersed Jug, I'm in the process of making one too.


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