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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 12-04-2006, 03:18 PM Thread Starter
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Seachem Prime and Algone

I just realized my darn tap water must have chloramine in it. I also did some research to confirm my suspicion and sure enough I was right. I've been going each week to the local store and buying weekly 20 gallons of distilled and spring water to do my water changes, but my gosh it's getting expensive and it's a lot of freaking work carrying all those plastic jugs in and out of the house. So this past week I decided to just use my Python and use tap water with the standard declorinating stress coat stuff and I get an algae bloom! I test the water and sure enough it shows ammonia. I check my tap water and yes it too has almost 2.5ppm ammonia levels.. Grrrrrr

So doing a bit of research I'm coming across stuff called Seachem Prime and also a product called Algone packets that get dropped in my Fluval filter on a bi-monthly basis that is supposed to inhibit algae growth, remove nitrates, reduce ammonia and nitrites, etc.

Question is, which should I be using? Can I use both or is that too much?

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Seachem= good.
Algon: bad.

Algon is not going to cure an algae issue in a planted tank.
This is due to a lack of nutrients which is why the plants are not growing to begin with.

When you do not care for the plants and also do not add enough nutrients, you will get algae.

The seachem stuff is for water changes.
I honestly see no use for the Algon stuff in our context with planted tanks.

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Thanks! I'm going to start looking for a place that sells that. I'll check out the vendors here and see who sells it at the best price before I head to the LFS. This is a great forum!

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You need a way to remove ammonia, chlorine, and chloramines before the water gets to the tank. Assuming you are talking about the 55g tank in your sig, and based on EI the changes are 50%, then I would suggest getting a 25 gallon storage tank or bin of some kind. You can fill it up, treat it and let it age (which is also good for degassing) then use it for the water change. MUCH easier in the long run than doing the gallon buckets of distilled.

I think that if the algone removes nitrates as well, you will end up with another problem resulting in more algae. Better to find a good solution now!

EDIT: or maybe you don't need a storage tank. In-tank dosing is very typical with Prime.
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You need a way to remove ammonia, chlorine, and chloramines before the water gets to the tank. Assuming you are talking about the 55g tank in your sig, and based on EI the changes are 50%, then I would suggest getting a 25 gallon storage tank or bin of some kind. You can fill it up, treat it and let it age (which is also good for degassing) then use it for the water change. MUCH easier in the long run than doing the gallon buckets of distilled.

I think that if the algone removes nitrates as well, you will end up with another problem resulting in more algae. Better to find a good solution now!

EDIT: or maybe you don't need a storage tank. In-tank dosing is very typical with Prime.
Yeah I just ordered some Prime from aquaticplants.com along with some substrate fert tabs and some more hair grass. Looking forward to seeing what happens.

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I use Prime exclusively.
I loves it.....although P U it be stanky!
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I use Prime exclusively.
I loves it.....although P U it be stanky!
lol Ok so mine hasen't gone bad... Its supose to smell like ass.
I was worried for a bit there. I just recently switched to prime and wasen't expecting the...aroma.


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if it stinks, it is good...lol
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prime is great!
I have heard that Algone is barley hay ground up but I have substantiation of that.

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