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Best fish friendly way to attach plants to wood?

Is there a fish friendly way to attach plants and moss to wood and stones? I've tried the hair net thing and lost 2 plecos after they tangled themselves in it. I've lost another pleco in another attempt with fishing line when they got a loop of it around their head by their gills and I didn't notice until I examined the dead pleco . I bought some cotton thread but was wondering is this better than the other alternatives I've tried? It says "glaced cotton" what is "glaced cotton"? on the back it says 100% cotton. It is also white . I don't want to lose any more fancy dwarf plecos.

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OK, doing a websearch and found out that glaced means:

"Glaced refers to a finish in which 100% cotton and some cotton wrapped core threads are treated with starches, waxes, and special chemicals under controlled heat and then brushed or polished to a high luster. The result is a glossy, hard finish that protects the thread from abrasion and enhances ply security during the sewing of hard to penetrate fabrics."

Would this be harmful in my tank, is there something else I should use?

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I use normal old sewing thread. It was like $0.25 for one of those big spools. I normaly go with black instead of white as it blends in better.

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fishing line is usually what I use. I found that in the lower light tanks, my thread dissolves before java fern & anubias actually attach to the wood/rock. Java moss typically does OK in that time, though.

EDIT: Oops, just read that your plecos don't get along with fishing line. My $.02 wasn't even worth that!
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But doesn't the epoxy need a totally dry surface to work? Can it be used on plants? Also, wood is porous, would epoxy still work?
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But doesn't the epoxy need a totally dry surface to work?
Not necessarily. I've attached java fern to wood. I basically waited until the epoxy was almost dry, then pressed the plant into the middle of the glob, and stuck it on the wood.

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Also, wood is porous, would epoxy still work?
Sure does. I glued a piece of driftwood back together, after it broke. I also have glued holes in driftwood shut, so critters couldn't get in them. Works great to glue / hold rocks together as well.

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For ferns and Anubias, I have used a staple gun. I either staple and then slip the rhyzome under, or put something like a crochet needle under the staplegun to keep it from going in all the way. If you do a few testers and your wood is hard enough, you can just staple right over the rhyzome (or the roots). The staple will soon rust and you won't even be able to see it. I've had no problems with staples in my tank, though I've only ever used a few at a time. They also work very well at holding moss onto corkboard for a moss wall (forget the gun, just push them in).


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Not necessarily. I've attached java fern to wood. I basically waited until the epoxy was almost dry, then pressed the plant into the middle of the glob, and stuck it on the wood.




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When you used this product did you have it cure in the tank? Can it cure underwater? Looks really neat, this may be what I need to glue smaller pieces of wood together to make a bigger piece too.

The staple thing sounds good too. But I may need to use a lot to keep my mini anubias down.

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When you used this product did you have it cure in the tank? Can it cure underwater?
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Yeh, I had it out of water (mixed) probably a total of 10mins. Then I put the wood/plants in the tank.
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I've been using rubber bands on my Java Ferns for four months now. The bands still look good. Eventually when they break the fern will already be solidly attached to the wood.
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I recently used green plastic grafting tape. I use it out in the yard to tie up plants without hurting them.
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I have tried rubber bands but they break in my tanks within a few days.
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