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I need help with ei in english fo dummies lol

I have turned on the co2 and am preparing to buy ferts from Greg Watson and after doing much reading I have decided that the easiest method for me seems to be ei. Is it better to dose all chemicals in a dry form of mixed in liquid? I have a 55 gallon tank that prob only has a water volume of 45 or so with substrate and rock. What do I need to buy and if mixing in water how much do I need to mix it with for a 2 week supply and how much liquid do I need to add to the tank of both the micros and macros. Sorry if I am asking alot of questions but I have screwed this up before and I failed chemistry in college lol. Thanks again Rich.
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EI is really simple, you'll love it. Just dump in the dry ferts, it's far easier to do. Here is a really handy thread for EI dosing amounts:

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/wa...=dosing+sticky

According to that thread, you should do the following for your 55 gallon tank:

50% H20 change-weekly
1/2 Tsp KN03 3x a week
1/8 Tsp KH2P04 3x a week
1/8 Tsp K2S04 3x a week
10 ml Trace 3x a week
2-4 ml Fe/Iron 3x a week

Make sure that when you dose, you do the nitrate/potassium/phosphate (macros) and the trace/iron and different days! They won't mix and will precipitate out. So, one day do macros, then the next day do trace, etc.
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Can I substitute plantex csm+b for micro's and if so how much and isnt iron in plantex?
Thanks /rich
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Yes you can use csm+b for your micros. Lots of people including myself do. As for iron....yes csm+b has iron in it. This should be all you need if you are just starting out. Some people like to use additional iron once there tank is established and really running well. It helps for additional coloration of the plants and health but it is optional. I myself just use flourish iron for an fe supplement to the csm+b. I think greg has a bulk dry iron and he may still sell a flourish line including the fe(iron).

A little word of advice on your fert purchase. Get 2lbs of no3. You will use it at a much faster rate than anything else. I made the mistake of only buying 1lb and am going to have to order again soon. I still have lots of phosphate and potassium.

How much light do you have over this tank?
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Do i need to dose mgso4? Greg Watson's site recomends it. I see some dose it and some don't. It is just Epson salt right?
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Also how mush plantex do you dose on micro days?
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Bulk dry iron?

I'm dumb... how would you dissolve that?
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Well... I can't really tell you if you need to dose mgso4 or not. It depends on your water parameters? Mainly your GH. You can use epsom salts from wal-mart same thing.
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Missouri water is off the chart hard! Gh and Kh were not really readable on my test kit!
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Almost forgot it has a 48 inch 4x65 watt coralite fixture cf. I run it aprox 10 hrs it has 2 10000k bulbs and 2 6700k bulbs. I will prob go to all 10000 k bulbs as I like the color of the light over the tank.
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If I were you I would buy

2lbs Kno3
1lb Kh2po4
1lb K2so4
1lb csm+b

If you are unsure about your GH you could go ahead and get Gregs gh booster. It contains both calcium and magnesium.


Do you know what your GH is?
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Oop ... you posted before I got the gh question in. I wouldnt be concerned about the gh booster or the mgso4 then. The question about the light was because I was wondering if you had enough to really need a good fert regime or not.



at 4.75 watts per gallon I would say you will need lots of ferts!.... lol
I wouldn't suggest running them all for a long periods.
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If you are not using ferts yet I would only turn on half of those lights.

Even after you get your ferts .... if you tank is still new I would suggest only running full bore 4x65watts of light for a short period of the day. Maybe 2hrs or 3. Especially if you can get a good spread of light out of half of them.

That is a lot of light on your tank and you can wind up with algae all over the place
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