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Curing this dreaded cloudy water!

I've been cursed!



Sorry about the crappy photo, I was too lazy to set up my tripod just to show you my crummy tank.

My plants are doing fine but theres some slight algae growing on them . . . but I fear that is because of lack of C02. Ive been noticing an inconcsistant flow of bubbles in my bubble counter.

The water will grow increasingly cloudier over the course of the week. It may be greenwater, but it's more white that greenish.

Here is what I think might be going on.

a) Bacterial bloom

b) The starting stage of greenwater

c) The micron filter pad in my XP1 needs to be replaced with a fresh one.


I am considering buying a turbotwist Uv sterilizer. but i doubt I will have room for it within my all too crowded stand.

Any pointers?
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put some of your tank water in a small white bucket or big white plastic cup. If it has a green tinge to it, then you know it's green water starting, otherwise it's a bacteria bloom.
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I've been cursed!
This is what I call the teen years of the planted tank, it is a curse for any parent.. now you see how us parents feel at times when our teens do a say things that are contrary to what we tell you
Your tank is going through puberty.

This is why you should add mulm to a new substrate if at all possible to avoid these things.
Diatom filter or a UV is the fastest way to rid yourself of it, or wait it out.

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It is inevitable in a young tank. When I got my bacterial bloom setting up my 90 gla, the UV I set up had it clear as a bell within 2 days. I now use it for 24hours after every water change, and it is off the rest of the time, and I am ghlad I have it plumbed in the line. It is a small price to pay for a great convenience.
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I have had bacterial blooms, and water changes didn't help at all. If you wait long enough the water will suddenly clear up.
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Here is a sample of my water in a white cup.

It's a lot more brown than it is green . . . then again that doesn't mean it isn't greenwater.
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im also having that problem, not so green and not so white, if i put it on a white bucket it show likes on the photo, im also thinking of getting UV sterilizer, but it will cost me a lot,

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I skipped puberty using a diatom filter.

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That makes 3 of us. 4 if you count the two tanks I have that have GW. I'm in the process of doing a blackout, but I've peeked once or twice...it's still green as heck.
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I was thinking of a UV aswell, however it raises several concerns.

1) With a DIY inline reactor, a 5# C02 Cylinder, and my XP1 all under the same tank; I have little if not no room for a UV down there.

2)The UV I have been considering, the Turbotwist 9watt by Coralife, is rated for a flow of, if I recall correctly, 100-150 GPH. Well . . . my Xp1 pushes out much more than that . . . blah!
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A UV will clear that up in no time. Just rig something up temporary with a power head and hand the UV on the side of the tank. Run this while the tank "breaks in"

BTW you may be experiencing an ammonia spike or nitrite spike which is causing this. If so I'm thinking that once the tank fully cycles it will be better.

Check Co2. Just keep tuning it up slowly everyday until the plants start pearling, but if the fish start stressing out try running air bubbles at night and consider turning off the Co2 at night.
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I run the C02 for the ten hours that my lights are on everyday. The plants pearl everyday whether I like it or not . . . my fish have never shown any signs of being affected by the C02.

I will check my ammonia, but the last time I checked it (about three weeks ago) my ammonia was at zero, but you can never be too safe.
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I run the C02 for the ten hours that my lights are on everyday. The plants pearl everyday whether I like it or not . . . my fish have never shown any signs of being affected by the C02.

I will check my ammonia, but the last time I checked it (about three weeks ago) my ammonia was at zero, but you can never be too safe.
Is that AS? You can put some (edit) "activated carbon" in the cannister and that helps rid the pee colored water faster, though I never did. Water changes will help. I second the idea of a HOB style UV with a power head. One rarely needs to run them - just every once in a while and you can move them from tank to tank that way. And one less thing dragging down your current. It might be GW, but it well may be tannins if thats aqua soil. It looks like a bacterial bloom to me, or a diatom bloom more than GW. If so, time will cure that. If it ends up being GW, I'd order that TT.





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Yep this is my imfamous Powersand/Aquasoil tank.

I tested for ammonia and the test results yield an ammonia free aquarium.

If it is tannins from the AS, why is it it took over a month for them to appear?

If this proves to be greenwater then I will bite the bullet and purchase the Turbotwist. Plus it would be a good thing to keep on hand.


At the moment I am not dosing any micros or macros for I suspected they might be aiding the cloudiness.

I will go down to Petsmart tomorrow and pick up some new Micron Filtration Pads and some Biochemzorb. Hah, two things Petsmart has proven to be useful for: cheap Oto's, and a collection of Rena Filstar media!
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Yep this is my imfamous Powersand/Aquasoil tank....

At the moment I am not dosing any micros or macros for I suspected they might be aiding the cloudiness.

I will go down to Petsmart tomorrow and pick up some new Micron Filtration Pads and some Biochemzorb. Hah, two things Petsmart has proven to be useful for: cheap Oto's, and a collection of Rena Filstar media!
Yeah, I'm dosing very few traces myself and no macros (large, well fed fish population). But you might consider just getting a media bag and a cheap box of activated carbon instead of those biochem zorbs (which sound like a kid's super hero). But I really think its a bacterial bloom which will go away on its own.





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