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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-06-2013, 07:28 AM Thread Starter
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Scared to start my next tank up!

Hey all!

i am new to planted tanks, and i think they are AMAZINGLY beautiful when done RIGHT! i have seen so many tanks that are just jaw dropping.

in the past 2 months i have spent alot of money getting togeather the stuff for my next tank! (65 gallon)

Pressurized co2 system
5 9L bags of ADA Amazonia

those 2 things alone have set me back over 600 dollars! then i bought the tank for 450, but it came with a FX5 so that saved me money as i was planning on getting one anyway!




now my tank is sitting outside, has been for weeks. im scared to get it going, as i have NO experience with a planted tank and i want it to look amazing.

this is kind of what i have in mind, but i have NO skill or experience to do it!

http://www.aquariumdesigngroup.com/d...k_fishtank.jpg

http://www.aquabotanic.com/wp-conten...nk_Genesis.jpg


i also have no branchy type driftwood, the only DW available around my town is Malaysian and i havent been able to find any of the "Cool" looking rocks around my area.



now what im getting at here, is i was wondering if someone could please link me maybe to some amazingly detailed grow logs? or videos, or articles on how to plant things properly, how to come up with a plan, and how to make a "Plant list"

i find this all overwhelming as i started looking online at plants, and once again it seems like an experience thing as i have NO CLUE how these plants end up growing and what they turn out to be!


im just so lost!!!! i really want this tank to look amazing, i have a 33 gallon tank, with some amazon swords and Fissidens Fontanus moss, the swords are doing well, but the fiss seems to ALWAYS be covered in algae and slime, (I dont have co2 and dont dose in this tank, i just let it go natural haha... maybe thats the problem?)

if anyone can give me some pointers on how to acheive a look like the link i posted that would be amazing!
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You will need high lighting to get a dutch style tank (the first pic you linked to). With this lighting, CO2, & ferts you'll be able to grow virtually anything (of course depending on your water parameters).

Here's a link to a place for some amazing loking and amazingly cheap manzanitza wood. I will be using this site in the future when I rescape some day.
http://www.bloomsandbranches.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1817

I'd also suggest long scissors & tweezers if you do not already have them. I got cheap ones from Amazon.com for about $5-10 each and they work perfect.

As far as scaping you can look at youtube. Green Machine, ADA, etc...have great demos on how to build the scapes, how to progate and plant the plants (also prep newly purchased plants for planting). I've found some videos that show you the names of the plants in the scapes as well. I've not yet found one that goes through the process to the Nth detail though. I'd love to see a dutch style set up from beginning to end myself (with all water parameters discussed).

Here's a few links I saved for myself to learn from:
http://fish-etc.com/aquascaping-main/aquascaping-a-planted-aquarium/2

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=343666

(see the 55gal example of creating depth)
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=197579
For plant ID
http://www.tropica.com/en/plants/plant-list-a-z.aspx
Good info on algae

http://www.theplantedtank.co.uk/algae.htm


Best of luck. Remember that a big part of the fun is learning patience and learning from mistakes and from other's mistakes. Enjoy the journey.




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Your already taking the first step. Your on here asking questions and doing homework. I can promise you for all the tanks that you see as amazing that person was in your shoes at some point. It doesn't happen overnight. Look at articles and forums on the topic of starting a new planted tank. There is and abundance out there. Start in this forum.

Overwhelming, I can see that. Just take it one step at a time. Research as much as you can and I can guarantee you that when you are ready, you will know. Otherwise, you can just go ahead and ship all that stuff to me, lol. I am the complete opposite of you though. I can't wait to get going on my multi tank setups. I have been collection items here and there for the past year now.

Those pics you linked are nice indeed but not impossible. I will say that not everyone has a good eye for aquascaping though. If one is not really artistic then it may be a challenge from the beginning for most. It takes creativity to come up with those real eye popper tanks that have depth imo.

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While I don't have many links to offer, I can say that it is not as daunting as it may seem! I am new to planted tanks as well, but at some point you just have to dive in! You've made too much effort to just turn back now!

Do a little research, but don't over analyze it. You already have the look you want, so sketch it out on paper. Pick out your basic things like your substrate, preferred rocks and wood, and plant location and tada, you're mostly done with planning! Then all you need to do is bring things to fruition.

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/myPlants.php
I use the above link for when I search for plants. It usually has multiple pictures of the plants in different setups, full information on what their requirements are, and it's commented on by TPT members on how successful, or unsuccessful, they were with their plants. Very helpful IMO!

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Tropica has a lot of scapes planned out, might look through them, a link at the top of the page already posted. A few have set up videos as well.

ADA has a youtube channel and last year put up a lot of set up videos. Here is one I saved. Most are updates on how tanks look so might be a bit of a search to find the set up ones. http://youtu.be/i0ZVhi9IAOY

You can see that a fabulous piece of wood isn't essential. Bits can be tied together to make the wood shape that fits your plan. I drill and screw branches together and flatten the bottom so I can screw a bit of acrylic to the bottom so the whole thing can be anchored more securely. Any sound completely dry hard wood with no bark is suitable for use. Most of the wood in my tank came from odd sticks sold here and it is getting holier and smaller each time I redo the tank. Branchy wood would become less branchy over time and it collects algae, gets in the way when working in the tank and plants cover it up anyway.

Read through these threads. He uses ADA and tries hard to include every detail. Since you are using Aqua soil you need to do things differently than somebody using gravel or Fluorite. https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=155525
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=168992

Neither of your examples need fabulous rocks as the plants will cover most of the hardscape. It would be a waste to spend money on them for the heavily planted scape you are interested in developing. Look for rocks in your area. Maybe pick them up on hikes, find them at a landscape place or even at a local garden store. Look for fine texture and detail and a variety of sized/shaped rocks in the same color family. Bold granite would overwhelm most scapes. Rounded river pebbles look amazing in some scapes but aren't what is needed for your choices. Smoothed over edges is nicer than freshly broken but I see really nice work done here with very rough rock and the ADA video shows rough rock being used.

Don't think of this as procrastination, think of it as research. I love this part of the process and do the same thing every time I have the itch to change the tank around. No rush, get everything lined up.


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Just found this article regarding the "golden rule" of aquascaping: the rule of two thirds. It is very well written, easy to understand, and will hopefully help you (and me) get an idea of how to hardscape properly!

http://fish-etc.com/aquascaping-main...-your-aquarium

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I am new too, so i feel your pain. The Tank Journal section has been super helpful for me, especially when you search for specific sizes and styles. It's pretty easy to see how people pick filters, set ups, stock, plants. And then you get to see how those decisions play out over time.

Also, if you haven't taken a look at Tom Barr's driftwood, you really should. It's amazing.

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