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Having problems with stem plants.

I dont think Im planting my stem plants properly because a lot of them are dying. Can anyone help me please?
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My camara is broken so I can take any pictures.
I have Ludwigia, ambula, hygrophila, and camboa. I just got these in the mail couple days ago and I just plant them streight into my gravel (100% flourite).
Right now im trying to use up all my seachem fertlizers before I get some from Greg Wwatson. Im dosing seachem nitrogen, potassium, phosphorous, trace, and iron. My lighting is about 4wpg. Co2 at 30+. My stem plants have been turning brown and just wont stand anymore.
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Sometimes that happens when they are shocked by heat during shipping, or if they were grown in the emersed state and are adapting to submerged growth.

How long are your lights on for? Do you have the lights on a timer? What is the temperature of your water?


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water temp is about 80 because of summer here. My lights are on for 10 hours each day with a timer.
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Hmmmm. Sounds as though you're doing everything right. You may just be having bad luck because of the heat. Are you taking them out of the plant weights and planting them individually, just one or two stems per hole? They really don't like to be "smooshed" together and planted with the plant weight.

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Im planting one per hole and Im planting them about 1/2 inch apart from each other. I heard that when you get your new stem plants you should float them on the surface for a week or two for the roots to develope. Should I do that?
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It isn't necessary or even desirable to float stem plants before planting them. Remember, stem plants don't really need roots to grow, since they get their nutrients largely from the water column. Some do develop very vigorous root systems, but all will grow from the time they are planted, roots or no roots. (Like all generalities, this one is subject to some rare exceptions!)

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Some of my stem plants are rotting at the bottom.
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Sounds like the stems were either damaged when you planted them (happens a LOT with Cabomba), are simply adjusting, or not enough light is getting to the the bottoms.

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Sounds like you dont have enough light


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Sounds like you dont have enough light
4 wpg...too much light IMO, but not the cause of the problems.

I would simply blame transit stress. Sometimes floating helps, sometimes not. It just depends. This happens. If you can keep feeding the plants, they should recover, but it will not be instantaneous. If you can get a hold of some more plants from a LFS that can definitely help you out in the short run...especially with the high light you have. You're gonna have to really cram some plants in there and keep a close eye on your fert regime.

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How many stem plants can I burry in one hole?
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i would tweeze plant the stems and try to pack some gravel around. not only can you spread your plants farther, but the lower stems won't die from being crammed together.


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How many stem plants can I burry in one hole?
Depends on the plant, rotala 3-4, L. Cuba-1


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