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Dwarf Sag

I got some dwarf sag from one of the sponsors here.
It's not very dwarf IMO, ~8" tall

I am wondering if the sub'd in something else or these were grown in very low light?


The other plants I got from them were great though.


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You do need the high light to keep them short. I have some in my 110 under 4 x 65watt and they stay short and bright light green. Where are these going? I bet they'd stay short in your 65.

Did the sponsor list what conditions the plants were grown under? Dwarf sag that grows tall looks very similar to Vallisneria, but on my Vals the leaves are a bit wider and have a slightly different pattern to them.


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I sent the sponsor an email earlie to find out what conditions they were grown under.
They are going into the 110gal 175Wx2 96Wx2


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Oh yeah, they'll grow nice 'n short in your 110, assuming they actually are dwarf sag.


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Ok what do you think?

I have ordered from this vendor several times and never had an issue with them. These just took me off guard since I was expecting ~4" tops. They just seem too large to me.


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That looks more like Sagittaria platyphylla than subulata. The leaves on subulata aren't quite as thick. Looks like Sagittaria of some sort more than it does Vallisneria to me though.

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but you mean jen that dwarf sag will really grow that long in a low light condition?

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I've seen it do that before, yeah. It stretches to get to the light. I think your lights would be ok though Cooper.


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against my better judgement I planted the first 1/2 of the batch in my 110gal. Ther rest are going into 2 other tanks.

I still haven't heard back from the seller.

I have to say it does look goffy with foreground plants that are 8"+/- tall.
At leat they are easier to pull of of a 30" tall tank than they are to put in.


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Dwarf sag is kind of a misnomer. It can grow up to 10" tall and still be considered "dwarf". Compared to normal sag it's a dwarf. But in a 18" deep tank it doesn't always look so dwarf.
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Yes, dwarf sag can be 6 to 10 ", easily. You can cut it though to whatever height you want.

Here is a pick of dwarf sag in my 100 gallon tank. From front to back it is all Sagittaria subulata. I trimmed the plants in the front. I had 4/watts per gallon over this tank at the time of the picture.



I don't know if you are talking about me or not, if you are I missed your email. Your pictures do look like the dwarf sag I currently have.


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No Robert it wasn't from you.
I was just looking for verification that it is dwarf sag. I'll have to get it under some high light and trim it when it takes root.

When you refer to 'trim' are you suggesting a hair-cut or snipping it off at the base?


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