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powdered bioavailable carbon? like excel..

does anyone know of a powdered bioavailable carbon similar to what is in flourish excel? i'm trying to get a bunch of science-grade chemical powders (such as potassium nitrate etc.) to make my own fert solutions.

does anyone know if this exists, and if so what it is called?

also, anyone know any good sites to find science-grade chemicals to make my ferts?
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it would be interestin if such a thing exists. As far as "science grade" ferts as you've referred to them everything you need is on gregwatson.com
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does anyone know of a powdered bioavailable carbon similar to what is in flourish excel? i'm trying to get a bunch of science-grade chemical powders (such as potassium nitrate etc.) to make my own fert solutions.

does anyone know if this exists, and if so what it is called?

also, anyone know any good sites to find science-grade chemicals to make my ferts?

I doubt it.....isn't glutaraldehyde extremely unstable and breaks down very quickly in oxygen? Besides, isn't pure glutaraldehyde a liquid anyway?

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Any number of sites where you can find higher grade chemical ferts. Can't understand for the life of me why you would want to pay 10X or more for the same amount of what you could get from Greg.
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cool thanks for the website about greg watson..didnt know about that...i'm a new to the whole planted tank world
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I have not heard of an equivalent chemical to Excel as a source of carbon for plants. I suspect if a dry chemical that was effective existed it would be sold by all of the aquatic plant fertilizer suppliers along with other fertilizers. I'm almost sure Seachem would have it in their product lines.

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I can see it now the fizzy carbon pop rocks of the aquarium world
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I can see it now the fizzy carbon pop rocks of the aquarium world
They already have those in two forms. One is called alkaseltzer the other is called fizz tabs here: http://www.petco.com/product/13201/J...:referralID=NA

THIS IS NOT A RECOMENDATION!!!!

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4 years! That has got to be a record.
not. even. close.
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I might try mono sodium glutamate when I have the time. It's got some carbon in the molecule chain.


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I think people with reefs dose vodka as a source of carbon for denitrifying bacteria... but thats a liquid.
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This discussion comes up periodically. Remember, plants are largely made of carbon, but they don't consume their own carbon in order to grow, nor do they consume each other for carbon. Fish are largely carbon, but plants don't capture fish and consume them. It isn't just carbon that the plants need, but bioavailable carbon, which is carbon dioxide largely. When plants die and decay, they give off carbon dioxide, and that is used by other plants. So, unless you find an unusual molecule, like glutaraldehyde apparently is, you are stuck with CO2 or something that gives off CO2 as it breaks down, while not being toxic at the same time.

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I might try mono sodium glutamate when I have the time. It's got some carbon in the molecule chain.
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I think people with reefs dose vodka as a source of carbon for denitrifying bacteria... but thats a liquid.
How can vodka be a source of carbon? It is largely ethanol and water, bacteria do not break down ethanol, as far as I know.

Also, what a waste of vodka; better to drink it than to use it to feed bacteria.

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i dont know how it works, but yeah reefers use vodka
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