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Willow moss or Java moss??

I recently bought some " Willow" moss from Aquabid.com. When I received the moss the other day, I couldn't tell what was. In my opinion, it looks an awful like Java moss. I would appreciate any other opinions concerning the mystery moss. By the way, here is a direct link to pictures of Willow moss, which I thought I was purchasing in the first place.

http://www.aquamoss.net/Willow-Moss/Willow-Moss.htm

Here is what I received:


http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...gAnch=imgAnch1
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That does look like Java Moss.

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sorta hard to tell for sure, a better resolution pic would help a lot.

but, it does look like java moss, or at least the pic doesn't look like willow moss.

even under low co2 conditions, unlike many mosses, willow moss tends to look similar to when it is grown in good co2.


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That is definitely not Willow Moss, and is almost definitely Java Moss. Willow Moss looks completely different than any other moss. Sorry.

The quality of moss sellers on Aquabid has really gone down lately, but there are a couple good ones. I have bought Willow Moss from "Aquaticmagic" on there before, he always sends very high quality moss, and always the correct species.

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Here is the web page for the auction. I am very upset that I spent that much money and I received something I could get for free at the LFS. The seller has great feedback and I trusted him/her. I emailed the seller but he hasn't responded yet. I hope we can settle this matter in a civilized manner.

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/aucti...ntsf1152235511
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The photo of the moss on the auction page is not willow moss... so they didn't even know what they were selling in the first place.

But to be fair, lots of nicer mosses could be mistaken for java moss if not grown in good conditions. And moss can be very hard to ID by photo alone, but the photo in the auction page looks a bit more lush than java moss to me. So if that is in fact the moss they sent you, you might still have something worthwhile.

Willow moss is one of the few mosses that is very easy to ID from just a photo, so it's safe to say you don't have it.
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I am so confused when it comes to all these different types of moss. I have been doing tons of research over the past few days and my brain hurts.

I bought some Java moss at the LFS last week and it looks exactly like the moss I bought on Aquabid.com. I believe I am entitled to a partial refund because the moss I received and the moss advertised are completely different.
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Looks like you got ripped off to me


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BigStick120- I am thinking the same way. The seller has a good feedback and over 60 transactions. I sent an email as soon as I looked at the moss and realized it wasn't what I had purchased. I haven't heard from the seller but I am hoping we can work something out. I only ask for a partial refund because I am willing to keep the Java moss but I believe I should get some compensation.
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Next time you order a moss, I suggest aquaticmagic. You may be deterred from it b/c of his location but his service is great and so is his product. I'm guessing you purchased from this other guy b/c it was in the US.
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I think I have yet to hear a bad thing about AquaticMagic. Second I get paid I'm having one of my friends w/ paypal purchase me a a few rare crypts. That's my only problem, he is unable to take a M/O because of his location. Understandable.

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I looked at Aquaticmagic's auctions and I am impressed. I didn't see him when I was searching for moss. Damn! How is the shipping time? I am guessing the plants are fine on delivery. I will surely use him when I get back from vacation. Thanks for the tips!
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based on the lighting, angle, blur of the picture, not seeing it mounted and submersed, and lastley not under a microscope its hard to identify that moss. From what we see it can only be judged on how it is branching and the space inbetween branches. Sorry but to me it looks like any moss under the conditions you took the picture in. One thing I am forsure though is that it doesnot have sharp leaves like the willow moss that I have, maybe it is a different strain. Mount it and let it grow, then show us another CLEAN pic in a month.

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I think most know of my not so good trouble with foreign (non USA) dealers but Aquaticmajic has really done me well. BTW there is a pond moss here in the USA thats does look very similar to Java that most down here in Georgia call willow or pond moss. I sent a bunch to a lot of people including the Moss Page group.. It just might be it they're selling....Jim
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here's an article on mosses you may find interesting. they all look the same to me. i have java moss, it's a big mess that i'm too lazy to deal with yet.

http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/...ng_Mosses.html


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