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I am thinking of getting this but it says it's a water conditioner, my question is does it contain any nutrients, i plan to use with Tetra flora pride which i already use.
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I am thinking of getting this but it says it's a water conditioner, my question is does it contain any nutrients, i plan to use with Tetra flora pride which i already use.
Yes. Flourish has nutrients. Seachem makes several "Flourish" products. Flourish Iron (just adds extra iron), Flourish Potassium (just adds extra potassium), Flourish Excel (which I think has all the nutrients plus something that they claim is similar to adding CO2), and plain Flourish (has all the nutrients in it except Nitrate and Phosphate). This is from memory, but I'm pretty sure I remembered them all correctly. Seachem's web site will tell you for sure. www.seachem.com

Almost no company puts Nitrate or Phosphate in their ferts. They assume that the fish waste and fish food will add all of those two you need. Sometimes, in a heavily planted tank with a light fish load, that isn't really true and you need to add a little nitrate and/or phosphate. Nitrate and phosphate test kits (and watching the plants, of course) will tell you if that is the case for you.

If you find yourself needing additional Nitrate or Phosphate, there's a ton of excellent information on this web site about how to go about it.

Good luck!

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...Flourish Excel (which I think has all the nutrients plus something that they claim is similar to adding CO2)...
Flourish Excel is a carbon source only; it doesn't contain any other nutrients.
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Flourish by Seachem isn't a water conditioner. It is a "Comprehensive Plant Supplement" containing traces, vitamins and amino acids. That's what the bottle says.

I use it to supply trace elements, together with Flourish Iron and macros.


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I wouldnt mix with tetra products or you may have to many nutrients and cause an algae bloom
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Flourish is good stuff. I would definitly recommend it. You probably also want to pick up some bulk macro nutrients, especially KNO3 and K2SO4. Look at http://www.litemanu.com/cgi-bin/html....1.46369600036
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It's difficult to overdose K and Traces(Flourish). It's easy to overdose N and P. Monitor these two nutrients and dose only as needed. Flourish also contains a decent amount of Fe. It may not be necessary to dose extra Fe. Your plants will tell you if they need more.

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FYI - to Wasserpest
Seachem DOES make a product called Flourish Water Conditioner. It is not a fert at all, just a water conditioner (removes chlorine, etc).
I found it at my LFS today looking for Flourish Trace.
I'm not sure WHY seachem named a non-fert water conditioner after their fertilizer line, but it is a product...obscure as it may be
So Anuba isn't crazy, and Flourish water conditioner doesn't contain any nutrients whatsoever.
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Thanks for the clarification Gregg, and sorry for assuming Flourish is Flourish I guess it all started with Flourish, and when they made a load of money on it they started introducing Flourish Iron, Flourish Trace, Flourish Water Conditioner... which leaves the original Flourish with its now ambiguous name. There you go :mrgreen:


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Actually if you want bulk nutrients try http://www.plantgeek.net/store.php they are cheaper and it helps support another resource.
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Wasser - I didn't mean to come off all high n mighty. at first I too was like WTF is this Flourish water conditioner..no way...but lo and behold I find it on the shelf 4 hours later.

I imagine it's the perfect conditioner for a heavily planted tank. Probably doesn't bind all the ammonia like AmQuel.
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Wow, I've been using the Flourish water conditioner as a general fert. I believe they called it "Flourish water conditioner" to get around certain laws, but it's the same ol' stuff. I think now it's just called "Flourish" See below: (taken from the Seachem.com)

Flourish™Ask us a new question.

Q: Why did you change the product?
A: We didn’t change the product at all, only the label. This was a result of ill defined state fertilizer laws which make it impossible for us to sell the product with the older, more descriptive label. These laws do not consider aquaculture fertilization parameters and therefore left us with the choice of either bottling 10/10/10 or changing our labels such that no fertilization claims were made. These laws have been recently changed at the federal level, so hopefully in the not too distant future, the consumer will not have to guess at what certain products do because of overly restrictive government regulation.


The product does'nt seem like a dechlor type of product. It is a very rich brown color. It smells too! Gotta be a fertilizer.
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Flourish is not actually a fertilizer as it's NPK is much to low. So they used to call it a water conditioner. Flourish is NOT a water treatment, DOES NOT remove chlorine or chloramines, it DOES NOT bind ammonia. If you want to TREAT your water then use Seachem Prime. If you want to supply trace nutrients to your plants then use Seachem Flourish.
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OK i heard that Tetra flora pride is mostly for non rooted plants but i believe it not true, the plants i have is-
7 stems of hornwort
medium sized amazon sword
around 15 java ferns
1 anubias nana
1anubias really small nana or petite anubias
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Flourish is not actually a fertilizer as it's NPK is much to low. So they used to call it a water conditioner. Flourish is NOT a water treatment, DOES NOT remove chlorine or chloramines, it DOES NOT bind ammonia. If you want to TREAT your water then use Seachem Prime. If you want to supply trace nutrients to your plants then use Seachem Flourish.
OK, so if I'm getting this then there are no macros in "Flourish water conditioner" aka simply "Flourish", just the micros? Maybe a blend of both? If that is the case that it's just micros, then what is the difference between this product and "Flourish Trace"?

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