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Here's my basic "plan" that I hope will workout, tell me what you think about it..
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1 - Bacopa monnieri
2 - Ammania gracilis
3 - Aponogeton boivinanus
8 & 9 - Micranthemum micranthemoides, Micranthemum umbrosum
4 - Hygrophila polysperma
5 - Ludwigia inclinata
6 - Nomaphila siamensis
7 - Myriophyllum matogrossense ‘Green’
10 - Heteranthera zosterifolia
11 - Nesaea crassicaulis
12- ‘Green’ Tiger Lotus
14 - Bacopa Myriophylloides
15 - Dipilis diandra
13 - Bolbitis heudelotii
16 – Anubias nana
17 - Hydrocotyle verticillata
18 - “Green” Wendtii
19 - Eleocharis acicularis
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I wouldn't put Dipilis diandra or Heteranthera zosterifolia infront of anything, both plants have a bad habit of the lowest leaves on the stem turning brown or black. My best growth of Dipilis diandra is in an unheated tank, I don't think you are gonna want to do that for this tank.

Otherwise it looks like a fun tank to put together. If you can get Eleocharis parvulus instead of acicularis I'd go that way, it's 1 or 2 inches shorter.

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Seriously, it's a cool water plant?! That's a first! :? I really like the spiny leaf shape, but I can subsitute the DwarfLobelia cardinalis for it. I managed to find Eleocharis parvulus, but I thought acicularis was called Dwarf Hairgrass?
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Seriously, it's a cool water plant?!
Kind of, it is from the southeastern US, so it is a temperate plant. Someone else might be doing better with it in warm water than I am but the growth in the unheated tank is spectacular. I have it behind a stand of E. acicularis.

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I managed to find Eleocharis parvulus, but I thought acicularis was called Dwarf Hairgrass?
It is, but parvulus is shorter. They both spread the same way, faster than you realize.

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listen to sean, he knows what he's talking about. i have also heard of didiplis diandra doing way better in cooler water...

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I know, for someone who has kept a Lace plant growing for nine years(knock on wood)..he sure must know a whole lot about plants! Sean, can you recommend a subsitute for it? A nice group of crypts., a group of Amazonica compacta, or just stick with Lobelia cardinalis...
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I grow them, but my aquascaping skills are lousy. The Heteranthera zosterifolia can be used as a background plant, I might suggest moving the Bacopa monnieri to the Dipilis diandra position, and put the H.z. in that back corner. In the old H.z. spot put a grassy crypt, you are missing the vertical line contrasts in your layout, Crypt. albida or C spiralis, or C. retrospiralis might make the contrast.

Heck I might move the Ludwigia inclinata to that spot and put C balansae back there but you have an Aponogeton boivinanus back there which the balansae would clash with.

Or you could just fill in the old H.z. spot with the Lobelia, it is a good plant for establishing a slope with, and it is one you recommended which gives it a leg up on everyone else since this is your tank and it is for your enjoyment.

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I know, for someone who has kept a Lace plant growing for nine years(knock on wood)..
That tank with the Madagascar laces had a heater freeze in the on position last year. :shock: Stewed fish and steamed vegetables when I got home. :fire: I pulled the heater, changed all the water and watched every plant in the tank blanch over the next couple days. :cry: I cleared out the dead leaves but left the substrate undisturbed. The Crypts and the lace plants all came back in a couple weeks and the lace plants bloomed for a second time that year. The odd plant was the sword which took 6 months to send up a leaf. These things are really tough when you get them established.

A few months ago a house sitter "trimmed" some plants for his home tank. :roll: Somehow one of the laces was uprooted during it's "dormant" period. I trimmed all the old leaves off and left it with the roots exposed untill it started putting up the new leaves a month or so ago. Then I covered the roots with a hand full of gravel. It was the first lace to bloom this year, and it has 2 more flowers growing. :hehe:

These laces are living dangerously.

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Hmm, vertical lines...would V.contortionist work?
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I don't see why not, that plant grows like crazy.

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I think I'll use V.americana var gigantea, I don't really like the twiste leaves in the contortionist..
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val spiralis is real nice. thin leaves. beautiful. and long

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Giant Val gets to be about 6 feet long. Try crystal or Italian val if you don't want the twisted leaves.

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Cab I use Crinum calamistratum instead of the Vals? Sorry for asking too many questions, this is the first time I'm trying a Dutch aquascape...all my other aquascapes are basically jungle.
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NO you can't!!! just kidding, hehe, of course you can. It's YOUR tank.

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